Are Cans Now Really Better Than Bottles?

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  1. Iluvink

    Iluvink Crusader (489) Aug 21, 2008 Texas

    Just got back from a fridge-filling run. Cans are actually represented in at almost a third of the offerings. I grew up with a nose turned up at cans of beer. Cans were for cokes only. Have they actually made cans that much better. Was Keystone really onto something?
     
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  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    When the canning line is good and running properly, yes.

    No oxygen exchange through the seal on the cap during shipping. (scalping)
    No skunking from light exposure.
    Easier to store in fridge.
    Cost less to ship.
    Some argue there is less oxygen captured beneath the lid when filling, so the beer remains fresher longer.

    So lots of advantages.

    (At least one long-term BA is on a CANquest {tm} and can speak to even more:

    @woodychandler)
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    If a brewery has a canning line which has low TPO (Total Packaged Oxygen) levels then those cans are indeed much better than bottled beer. Bottle beer has caps with cap liners that permit air (oxygen) ingress. From a beer stability (shelf life) perspective oxygen is the 'enemy' of beer.

    The fact that cans permit zero light ingress is a secondary benefit.

    Cheers!
     
  4. RonaldWilsonReagan

    RonaldWilsonReagan Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2015 California

    For camping I won't even entertain the prospect of hauling bottles anymore. So, from a convenience perspective cans blow bottles out of the water. There's no dropoff in taste quality in my opinion. As the OP noted, the quantity and quality of breweries canning their offerings is ever-increasing.

    With camping season upon us (truth be told in SoCal camping season never ends) I'll be purchasing cans almost exclusively.
     
  5. M_D_S

    M_D_S Aspirant (205) Jun 19, 2015 Delaware

    Both @drtth and @JackHorzempa are spot on about cans, generally. It's not really the cans that have gotten better, but rather the canning technology available to a small brewers has improved significantly in the last 5 years. That does not mean that all canned beer is created equal. I would avoid sitting on anything sensitive to oxygen (like an IPA) from a brewery that uses leased mobile canning technology. From what I've seen, those companies aren't using anything close to state-of-the-art and the testing I've seen shows it. If you consume them quickly after filling, you're probably good, though.
     
  6. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Yes cans have gotten better....but it's still what's inside that counts. Keystone in a can or a bottle is still Keystone. Frankly speaking, if it's good enough for The Alchemist it's good enough for you.
     
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  7. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    The only beers i prefer in bottles are American adjunct lagers and euro lagers. I love cans.
     
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  8. MichialTanner1

    MichialTanner1 Initiate (0) May 17, 2009 Texas

    They just might be.
     
  9. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Provided that the fill levels are appropriate and the seamer is aligned and operating within the specified measurements and the equipment being used is designed for what it is being used for. Yes. For beer that is meant to be consumed now. Cans are the superior vessel and for a great many reasons.
     
  10. RushMe

    RushMe Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2016 Illinois

    This has been asked soooo many time's on this site and yes they are better than bottles for every reason already mentioned. You just can't argue with science.
     
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  11. akolb

    akolb Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2015 Colorado

    The only reason I like bottles is that I can display the empties around the house and they look pretty. Doing that with cans would just look trashy. But for reasons such as convenience, recylability, and theoretical benefits for storing beer I generally prefer cans.
     
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  12. Broanoke

    Broanoke Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2013 Virginia

    When you own a mini fridge, you will truly appreciate the stacking capabilities of cans.
     
  13. The_Snow_Bird

    The_Snow_Bird Grand Pooh-Bah (3,557) May 7, 2015 Michigan
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    Beer cans are easier to mistaken as soda cans while drinking in public
     
  14. CanadianBacon

    CanadianBacon Pooh-Bah (2,003) Aug 26, 2015 Canada (QC)
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    I feel it depends what you want in your vessel. As most people know clear and green bottles skunk beer. Brown bottles are better at protecting beer from uv rays but they still spoil quicker than beer in cans. So as far as protection for your beer cans are superior.

    Cans weigh less making transporting cases easier too.

    If you display vessels after, I feel bottles are better in this purpose. Bottles just look nicer than cans, I personally have bottles lining my cupboards in my ktichen and it looks fantastic, Cans just wouldnt be the same.

    With all this said I enjoy my beer just as much regardless of the vessel but cans offer a superior way to do what the vessel is meant to do, transport. Cheers!
     
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  15. Cameron_como

    Cameron_como Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2015 Missouri

    Bottles are only superior in the department of repackaging-homebrew-in-them.
     
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  16. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    Cans can be flattened to take up less room in my recycling bin. Other than that, I've never managed to hold onto a beer long enough to notice whether they keep better.
     
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  17. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    The only point I know of not yet covered, is that cans also have a water based polymer coating that prevents beer and aluminum contact.
     
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  18. spacecake9

    spacecake9 Pooh-Bah (2,202) Apr 26, 2014 Illinois
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    Even though the bomber is my favorite way to try new beer, I wish everyone would switch to cans. For all the reasons mentioned.
     
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  19. tmbgnicu

    tmbgnicu Maven (1,280) Mar 15, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    My cellar, like everyone's I'm sure, is full of bottles. But in my fridge where I keep my "everyday" beer, I have a shelf for bottles and a shelf for cans. The can one is generally more full than the bottle one. And when I have the option of bottles or cans(like this year's Nugget Nectar or something like two hearted) I always choose cans.
     
  20. Barnoloid

    Barnoloid Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2015 Illinois

    The fact that some of my favorite Midwest breweries (Rev Brewing, Founders, Bells, Half Acre, Pipeworks) can some of their best flagship beers means that I am in the yes camp here. Portability, ease of storage....top notch.
     
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