Are we approaching a perfect beer or just getting bored with current styles?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Rockjocknroll, Aug 21, 2016.

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  1. Rockjocknroll

    Rockjocknroll Pundit (977) Jun 15, 2014 California

    IPAs went from East Coast malt balance to West Coast hop prominence back to Northeast Coast dry, clean balanced hops. The resurgence of more drinkable but refined beers (stouts dropping in ABV again) seems to be the norm almost everywhere. Is experimentation leading us to perfect beers or will we keep looking for the 'next big thing'? Thoughts?
     
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  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Neither.
     
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  3. Jay_P22

    Jay_P22 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2016 Virginia

    I think perfect beers have already been made, but people keep thinking something can be better than focal banger, tree house offerings, coveted bourbon barrel stouts, etc.

    I like the idea that great beers have already been made and more are coming.
     
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  4. Dredgy

    Dredgy Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2016 Australia

    Technical perfection makes for a very boring beer and I think it's been achieved many times. Reason I like trying beers is for the crazy, fun stuff I've never had before and doesn't always taste that great!
     
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  5. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    I suppose you could consider it approaching perfect. There are so many breweries that can make outstanding beers, that the different between some of them is near on negligible. Think about the Olympics, and the minute difference between first and last. With more and more outstanding breweries, it becomes harder to stand out and win with a lead.
     
  6. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Perfect beer? Not possible if ratings come into play and they have to. No perfect 5 beer evah on the top beers list of any beer centric website.

    And no, I am not bored with the "current" styles. For the vast majority, I have found some that tickled my fancy. Seeking out samples of beer styles I don't favour and finding at least 1 that agrees with my palate is sooo rewarding. Prost!
     
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  7. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    Gose/sours seem to have exploded this summer... granted, they were around in the previous years, but damn, everyone's got a gose out now. Hopefully, when summer grinds to a halt, gose production will drop off a bit.
     
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  8. 57md

    57md Grand Pooh-Bah (3,033) Aug 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    There is no perfect beer.

    That said, I am not sure that the latest trend of breweries making 10-20 different DIPAs and 10-20 different IPAs is moving the beer world forward.
     
  9. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I'm not sure I want perfect beer anymore than I'd want to hang around with perfect people. Vive la difference.
     
  10. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    The perfect beer has been being brewed in Chico CA for over 35 years.
     
  11. HeyItsThatGuy

    HeyItsThatGuy Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2016 Illinois

    Agree with 57md, just like a perfect world, there can be no perfect beer. Beer is like us. We are different. We are unique under are own conditions. We have learned to love, not just ourselves and others, but many other things in life including beer for their imperfections. There are some who would consider "bitterness" or "booziness" or "sour" and "roasty" flavors to be an imperfection or a blight within a particular style of beer that they love, whereas to others, some of those flavors are simply what they love. As long as we live in a world of differing tastes, and have different styles of beer that cater to those particular tastes, there will be no such thing as a perfect beer....and thank God for that :grinning:
     
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  12. DLang713

    DLang713 Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2012 New Jersey

    If there were a perfect beer, we'd have nothing to talk about here anymore. Me, I'm hoping to see a trend towards more classic styles, specifically lagers (Märzens, Helles/Dunkel Munich Lagers, Pilsners, etc.) rather than the big, in your face, palate wreckers that dominate today. I don't think there's anything wrong with those types (e.g., juicy IPAs and barrel aged stouts), but for me, they get in the way of conversation and require too much of my attention to enjoy. I'm just starting to get back into different lagers (very happy that O-fests are now lining the shelves) and am trying to bring beer back to what it originally was for me--a simple pleasure to accompany good food/friends/family etc.
     
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  13. Fordcoyote15

    Fordcoyote15 Pooh-Bah (2,368) Nov 19, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    X2. When I think about a "perfect beer" my mind passes over the personally high rated big stouts, dipas etc and what comes to mind are offerings that are not extreme in any way. Namely weihenstephaner original is the beer I think of when I think of "perfect".
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Beer Geeks are constantly looking for the next BIG thing. As long as US craft breweries cater to the Beer Geek market you can be rest assured that there will be constant development here.

    Cheers!

    P.S. Who would have guessed that Sierra Nevada would produce a year round Gose beer brewed using Prickly Pear!?!:rolling_eyes:
     
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  15. Rockjocknroll

    Rockjocknroll Pundit (977) Jun 15, 2014 California

    I totally agree; when I stated perfect I by no means meant something that adheres to a particular recipe or standard for style but a beer that could be considered the best combination of flavor and drinkability for a thirsty human. It's great to see how even good breweries are having to up their game and try new things to stay relevant.
     
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  16. Rockjocknroll

    Rockjocknroll Pundit (977) Jun 15, 2014 California

    Totally; it's easy to forget the accessible and cheap old-world standards that still blow newer beers out of the water. Schneider, Ayinger, Weihenstephaner (have you tried they're 1516? it's ridiculously good) might never be topped for style.
     
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  17. Rockjocknroll

    Rockjocknroll Pundit (977) Jun 15, 2014 California

    Green label's pretty damned good!
     
  18. Rockjocknroll

    Rockjocknroll Pundit (977) Jun 15, 2014 California

    It's been really cool to see so many resurrected styles...keep em coming!
     
  19. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Perfect/near perfect beers have already been nailed in England, Germany and Belgium for various styles over the past decades/centuries. The U.S. has been steadily improving the quality in beer making overall year after year, both in making tasty old world beers closer to the origniators, new hybrid styles that are amazing, and resurrecting extinct styles and improving them. The beer quality is still improving IMO as a whole and quality beers continue to get easier to find even with a lot of startups brewers making not very good beer. Some perfect beers are being made along the way as well.
     
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  20. Crusader

    Crusader Pooh-Bah (1,725) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden
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    I think most people are wired to get bored with something that they experience regularly, it becomes mundane rather than special. It might still serve a purpose, and be enjoyed, but it wont generate the same level of excitement anymore. Perfection can thus never be achieved for perpetuity imo, it can only be fleeting and temporary. But enjoyment can be achieved and maintained over the long haul, at least with some people.
     
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