Are your gravity and taste samples good?

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  1. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I just checked my gravity and the beer seems to be done with a FG of 1.011. I also used that time to taste it and see how it is. Most of the time I am not really impressed by how the beer is tasting, albeit it's only 11 days in primary. Even on beers that turn out well the samples I pull are never like damn, this is gonna be tasty. I am trying to nail down one particular style and it's been an ipa so must of my comments are related to that style. Not sure if other styles mature faster or what not. I've copied recipes on the internet and I've seen some people post "just took a sample and it's tasting soooooo good!"

    Do gravity and taste samples usually reflect the finished beer, excluding an infected one? Can a beer that tastes ok 2 weeks out of fermentation turn out to be awesome 4 weeks later? Do your gravity samples usually reflect the finished product?
     
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  2. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I don't ever sample before 2 weeks, and usually I have to let the sample sit for several minutes to let the particulates settle out first.

    If you don't let it settle, it can have an adverse effect on flavor. Once settled, it usually gives me a good idea of how it will turn out.
     
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  3. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    It might just be both those factors because when I bottle I get clean beer and it's past that 2 week mark. When I am bottling it gives me am idea of how the beer is going to taste.
     
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  4. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    For homebrew, just let it sit another week on the yeast so all the fermentation by-products can be metabolized down. The rough edges usually fade after another week or two of maturation. Personally, I've never been "wowed!" by any sample of home or commercial brew. It's not because it isn't good beer, it's just because it's not drinking ready yet. A little maturation, cold crashing, and carbonation go a hell of a long way.
     
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  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I think I can usually tell if I am going to like a beer from the fg sample. However, I'm generally going to like it more when carbed.
     
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  6. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Carbon dioxide has a lot to do with our perception of taste. the gas adds a metallic bite and the the bubbles help to bring the aroma of wort and hops to our nose.

    so yes, warm, flat beer does not in fact taste very good and only mildly resembles the finished product. shouldn't be a big surprise.

    that, and a few weeks of maturing always helps too.
    Cheers.
     
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  7. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    On those FG samples would say they are good? I can tell by a sample that it has potential or if I am hoping for a miracle.
     
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  8. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    To add to what I posted, after the settlement, the sample does taste good.
     
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  9. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    I do taste my beer by lick the Hydrometer , with out carbonation maturation and right temperature it's usually very bitter.
     
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  10. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Mine tend to be watery, fruity and bitter.
     
  11. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Most people pretend they are good. They don't have to be and most of the time they're pretty lousy. I wouldn't want a pint of it. I guess the contrary is true if you're sampling a sample that's been age on oak for 6 months or a sour.
     
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  12. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    That made me laugh.
     
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  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I do sometimes feel like I could enjoy them as is, uncarbonated. I generally sample my kegs a few times before they are fully carbonated and enjoy the beer. Perhaps this reflects that I also like English styles that use lower levels of carbonation, but it is not style dependent. But I don't serve them to others until they are fully carbed.
     
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  14. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    I feel like the smell of the samples after 2+ weeks is usually a little closer to the final product than the flavor is. Carbonation is the biggest missing factor, as others have pointed out.
     
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  15. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I wouldn't say they're 'good', but they give me a good indication of what my beer could be in the next few weeks. I just try to imagine the sample cold and carbonated, and not as yeasty.
     
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  16. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    My IIPA last weekend sampled prior to bottling tasted fantastic, albeit flat. I like nitro APA/IPA's, so it didn't bother me too much... Yum.
     
  17. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I drain pour hydrometer samples. I give them a careful whiff first, though.
     
  18. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    I always taste at various intervals...and generally drink whatever I pull. Since I only work with a couple of yeast strains -- and only brew a handful of styles I've been working on for the past 5 years or so -- I think the samples give me a pretty good idea of what to expect in the finished beer. After years of work, the recipes and processes are pretty well dialed in, and the samples are more or less free of any unexpected flavors. In that sense, I suppose I consider them "good."
     
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  19. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    How often does anyone taste the hydro sample and then do something to change the recipe of the beer based on the hydro sample?
     
  20. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    I tasted the hydro sample on a recent experiment using unmashed dehusked Carafa in a Tmave Pivo and the changed the recipe on paper, as the percentage seemed too high. Still waiting to see if the base malts emerge more after 9+ weeks, as this yeast tends to need that long to truly "work through" any specialty-grain tastes, but I can say with pretty good confidence that my recipe changed based on that sample.
     
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