Averagely Perfect American Stout - Poll #1 - ABV

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Nov 20, 2013.

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What ABV should the American Stout be?

Poll closed Nov 22, 2013.
  1. 5.0%

    5.4%
  2. 5.3%

    0.9%
  3. 5.5%

    11.6%
  4. 5.7%

    3.6%
  5. 5.9%

    5.4%
  6. 6.1%

    12.5%
  7. 6.3%

    9.8%
  8. 6.5%

    30.4%
  9. 6.7%

    6.3%
  10. 7.0%

    14.3%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,965) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    So the pre-polls have determined that the Averagely Perfect Beer #2 will be an American Stout. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, see this thread about the first beer we did (and the bazillion ensuing polls and the final recipes)...

    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/

    This first poll for the new beer is ABV percentage. When this poll is done, I will look at the data a few different ways to determine if there is a central tendency. It may or may not be as simple as a plurality would indicate. There may or may not be a runoff(s). It all depends on the data.

    Issues with methodolgy? Take 'em to beermail please.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours.
     
  2. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California
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    When do we get to vote if we can add a whole pie, pumpkin, brett, bourbon infused maple syrup, fat washed bacon or civet poop coffee to the beer?
     
  3. inchrisin

    inchrisin Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana

    Should this all be one poll?


    Vike: Is this one a majority wins, or do you actually boil them all down and divide by the number of votes?
     
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  4. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    I choose 5 % , I like this number
     
  5. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Initiate (0) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia

    6.7%..

    I'm thinking 1.070 to 1.018.. Want a slick, oily stout, but not overly sweet and viscous.
     
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  6. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Poo-Bah (1,826) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    You better believe I have my turkey roast.... er.... coolship ready for this one.
     
  7. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Initiate (0) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia

    Where do we get to vote on trying to make it 21% I'm thinking we do it in our LBK's too.
     
  8. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Crusader (729) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon

    Went with 6.5%; just enough alcohol to keep you warm in those last cold days of winter, but low enough that you can make it back to the keg for a second pour on the long cold nights, for St Pattys dinner, and great to throw in the crock pot with the corned beef or to add boat loads of English white cheddar to for beer cheese soup.
     
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  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,965) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I don't know what you mean by that. But...

     
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  10. Applecrew135

    Applecrew135 Initiate (43) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania

    5.5% - not overbearing, but quaffable!
     
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  11. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Crusader (729) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon

    I believe he was referencing:

    and asking if we are going to have separate polls for the pie, squash, wilds, and such, or if we are going to do one poll with the ability to choose multiples from the list as opposed to just one.
     
  12. OddNotion

    OddNotion Zealot (586) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey

    Hold the coffee please
     
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  13. udubdawg

    udubdawg Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2006 Kansas

    I like the low 6's. Obsidian is 6.4; sounds about right.
     
  14. inchrisin

    inchrisin Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana

    This is `Merica. We do things bigger better and stronger than Europe.
     
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  15. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    6.5 is what I voted...seems to be a common consideration.
     
  16. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California
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    Glad we both agree on the relevance of polls for whole pies, brett, etc. I agree that not everyone likes coffee, so that poll might be a bit polarizing.
     
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  17. MrOH

    MrOH Meyvn (1,394) Jul 5, 2010 Malta

    I vote for apple pie since it's an American stout.
     
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  18. MADhombrewer

    MADhombrewer Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2008 Oregon

    7, but looks like I will lose. Thanks.
     
  19. sjverla

    sjverla Disciple (397) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    I think that's the next poll. I heard pecan, apple, strawberry-rhubarb, banana cream, pumpkin, mincemeat and key lime are in the running. Then we'll have to figure out if it'll be a FWP, late addition or if we'll be dry-pie-ing. I'll be voting late addition/KO to extract maximum flavor and aroma for the APA Mincemeat Stout.
     
  20. OddNotion

    OddNotion Zealot (586) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey

    An FWP addition might help smooth the pie-y-ness out.
     
  21. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California
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    I heard that a German study proved FWP extracts the same amount of flavor and aroma as a late pie addition.
     
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  22. OddNotion

    OddNotion Zealot (586) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey

    Thats true, Swedish scientists also ran a double blind taste test to confirm the results.
     
  23. sjverla

    sjverla Disciple (397) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    That's why I love these forums. I learn so much practical info.
     
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  24. Marshall_ofmcap

    Marshall_ofmcap Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2013 Colorado

    I saw that study to. later in the paper though it is pointed out that pie was a typo, pi was the intended spelling. I guess thats what happens when you do research in two languages.

    I am currently running a test where I have two 2.5 gal fermentors that I am dry-pie-ing. one with crisco crust and one more traditional lard crust. I will let you all know of the results
     
  25. hopsandmalt

    hopsandmalt Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2006 Michigan

    That's bullshit. The study clearly stated that it provided a "Smoother Pie-e-ness", (as if such a thing exists)

    The tasting panel was probably comprised of people who are not used to drinking, and therefore biased against, heavily pied beers.

    There, now that I've taken the pie business too far and it's no longer funny.............I voted 6.1%. Right in the Goldilocks zone. Not to weak, not too strong.
     
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  26. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Poo-Bah (2,544) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I could see anything from about 6-6.5 as being near perfect for this beer. Deschutes obsidian stout comes to mind. Black, thick, roasty, toasty, burnt, and just fabulous at 6.4% (although they have it listed as a dry stout, but whatever). I picked 6.5 because it seemed good and stouty whilst not being too over the top.
     
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  27. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,907) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Starting to warm up to the idea of American Stout. It could provide a good template for do some extra stuff if I make a double batch - coffee, chocolate, bourbon, chili, etc. Pretty mundane stuff, these days, but outside of my comfort zone. Should be fun for me.
     
  28. hopsandmalt

    hopsandmalt Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2006 Michigan

    Chilis.....I think you're on to something there.

    I just brewed an American stout so I was kind of bummed when stout won the first poll.

    I just might add some ghost peppers to the final recipe just for S & G.
     
  29. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,965) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Okay, there's a couple of central tendencies here...
    6.5% Median and Mode
    6.2% Mean
    It's tempting to say 6.5 takes best two out of three, but since ABV is in reality a continuously variable attribute, the mean is kind of important too. Looks like a runoff.
     
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