Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #34 - Specific Concentrations for Chloride and Sulfates

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, May 28, 2018.

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Select one concentration for Chloride and one concentration for Sulfates.

Poll closed May 30, 2018.
  1. Chloride 80 ppm

    50.0%
  2. Chloride 90 ppm

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Chloride 100 ppm

    50.0%
  4. Chloride 110 ppm

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Chloride 120 ppm //

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. // Sulfates 30 ppm

    8.3%
  7. Sulfates 40 ppm

    75.0%
  8. Sulfates 50 ppm

    16.7%
  9. Sulfates 60 ppm

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Sulfates 70 ppm

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    -> Poll #33 <- determined that the general water profile will be Medium in Chloride (75 -125 ppm) and Low in Sulfates (less than 75 ppm). This poll will determine specific concentrations (in ppm) for Chloride and for Sulfates. When they have been determined, the concentration of Calcium will naturally follow, since the Chloride and Sulfates will come from additions of Calcium Chloride (CaCl2) and Calcium Sulfate (CaSO4), respectively. (A possible sidetrip here would result if there is a clamoring to consider adding some sodium via NaCl. In that case, some of the Chloride would be coming from NaCl.)

    In this poll you should click on two checkboxes... one choice for Chloride and one choice for Sulfates. Do not click on more than one choice for each ion. If you want an amount that's not listed for a particular ion, write it in, and don't click a checkbox for that particular ion. Write-ins need to be clear... if I can't understand what you're saying, or if it's not clear that it's a write-in, it will get ignored. Write-ins must be consistent with the previous poll decisions, i.e. Sulfates votes must be for less than 75 ppm and Chloride votes must be between 75 and 125 ppm.

    Feel free to include comments about other aspects of the water you believe should be polled.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please send them via beermail. Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand and not about how you would have asked the question differently. Lobbying for votes and intelligent discussion of each choice's relative merits is encouraged.

    The Averagely Perfect Dubbel Recipe so far...

    5 Gallons into the fermenter
    Target ABV: 7.0%
    OG: 1.065
    FG: 1.012
    IBUs: 24 (Tinseth)
    Yeast: Wyeast 3787 or WLP530
    Mash (recommended): 60 Minutes @ 152F
    Assumed Mash Efficiency: 70%
    Boil Length (recommended): 60 minutes
    Fermentation: Pitch at 66F, ramping up naturally or via temperature control to 73F over 2-3 days)
    Overall Water Profile: Medium Chloride, Low Sulfates

    Grains/Fermentables:
    ---Belgian Pilsner Malt (86%)
    ---D-90 Syrup (8%)
    ---Caramunich (4% Total)
    ---Special B (2%)

    Hops:
    60 minutes: Styrian Goldings (1.2 ounces, 5% AA)
    10 minutes: Styrian Goldings (0.5 ounces, 5% AA)
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Ok, that averages out to 90 ppm Chloride and 41 ppm Sulfates. That brings Calcium in at 68 ppm.
     
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