Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #8 - Cara/Crystal Malts

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Apr 5, 2018.

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Select one or more Cara/Crystal Malts

Poll closed Apr 7, 2018.
  1. Belgian Cara 20

    5.6%
  2. Belgian Cara 50

    8.3%
  3. Belgian Cara 120

    16.7%
  4. Special B

    86.1%
  5. Carapils or Carafoam

    8.3%
  6. Carahell

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. American Crystal 10-60

    5.6%
  8. American Crystal 80-120

    2.8%
  9. English Crystal ~45 - ~55

    5.6%
  10. English Crystal ~80 - ~120

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    -> Poll #7 <- determined that D-90 (and not D-180) Syrup will advance (inseparably with one or more ingredients from "CaraPils and/or Other Cara/Crystal Malt(s)") to a future combo poll that will feature at least one ingredient from "Munich and/or Vienna Malt(s)" and at least one ingredient from "Aromatic/Aroma Malt."

    This poll will determine what "CaraPils and/or Other Cara/Crystal Malt(s)" will advance (inseparably) along with D-90.

    You can select more than one choice. The #1 overall choice will automatically advance. Beyond that, any other choices that get votes from at least 30% of respondents will advance to another poll to determine exact combinations that advance further. Want something that's not listed? Write it in. If your first choice is losing badly, consider jumping to a similar choice that has more votes. If one or more choices that feature ranges of color (or more than one malt in the choice) are selected to advance, there will be a drilldown poll(s) to determine exact color(s).

    I recommend you think about this in terms of not only your personal preferences, but also in the context of the ABV and Final Gravity (and thus the attenuation) already selected, malt already selected, and malts and syrup still possible, as well as any possible yeast strain selection that might be kicking around in your head.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please send them via beermail. Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand and not about how you would have asked the question differently.

    The Averagely Perfect Dubbel Recipe so far...

    Target ABV: 7.0%
    OG: 1.065
    FG: 1.012

    Grains/Fermentables:
    Belgian Pilsner Malt: IN
    D-90 Syrup: possibly in
    CaraPils and/or Other Cara/Crystal Malt(s): possibly in, living or dying along with the D-90
    Munich and/or Vienna Malt(s): possibly in
    Aromatic/Aroma Malt: possibly in
     
  2. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Write-in vote for Caramunich
     
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  3. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Ditto. You missed a spot.
     
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  4. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Caramunich I (C30) + Belgian C120.

    Would have went Carapils for head retention but we have to hit attenuation on the higher end.

    Thumbnail sketching the recipe out so far - 12lb Belgian Pils, 1lb D90 gets us to 12 SRM. We have some color to give either through C120 or Special B.

    I don't think D90 would clash with Special B as much as D180 would have so I'd have no objection either way.
     
  5. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Carapils doesn't do what people say it does. http://scottjanish.com/dextrins-and-mouthfeel/
     
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  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Since Caraminuch is starting with a handicap, at the end I'll count up the Caramunich write-ins, and if they total at least half of what they would have needed to advance to a crystal combo poll, I'll advance it. It would still have to survive that combo poll on its own merits, but it would get a fair shake.
     
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  7. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    I am happy to see the Averagely Perfect threads are headed into Dubbel territory.

    Maybe it's just me, it's probably just me, but I have a hard time adding American Crystal to a Dubbel.

    If I am going to be using a Belgian Cara I may as well be all in and go with Special B. I love that stuff. So little goes so far. It's one of those malts that screams at you but sometimes I can't live without it.
    That's just me.
    Cheers.
     
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  8. StupidlyBrave

    StupidlyBrave Zealot (507) Jan 2, 2009 Pennsylvania

    write-in for caramunich
     
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  9. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    Write in for Caramunich
     
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  10. CarolusP

    CarolusP Zealot (590) Oct 22, 2015 Minnesota

    Write in for Caramunich, as well.
     
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  11. secondbase

    secondbase Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2015 Tennessee

    write-in for caramunich!
     
  12. deadwolfbones

    deadwolfbones Pundit (795) Jun 21, 2014 Oregon

  13. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    Special B and a write-in for Caramunich
     
  14. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

  15. jgnovak

    jgnovak Initiate (0) Apr 21, 2012 New Jersey

    Caramunich
     
  16. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

  17. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

  18. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    What do people say it does? (Based on the context of your reply, I expected the article to say something about Carapils not improving foam retention. But it doesn't (say that).)
     
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  19. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    I took it to mean that Carapils doesnt hurt attenuation rates much.
     
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  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    From the Briess website (with emphasis by me):

    “The original Carapils® Malt is a unique, dextrine-style malt that consistently increases foam, improves head retention and enhances mouthfeel without adding flavor or color to your beer. The top performing malt in the dextrine-malt category. Carapils® Malt is produced exclusively by Briess using a proprietary process.”

    http://www.brewingwithbriess.com/Products/Carapils.htm

    Cheers!
     
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