Bad BIF'r @Dworker33

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by Coorsy, Mar 30, 2018.

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  1. Coorsy

    Coorsy Defender (627) Jul 11, 2014 Massachusetts
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    For the past 3 or 4 years I have ran several Superbowl Square BIFs. Each square costs 44oz of quality beer and participants can select up to 2 squares. For the first time in my history of running this BIF I have unfortunately post to the Bad Trader thread.

    @Dworker33 has still yet to ship his box. With the Superbowl being the first Sunday in February, I set the deadline to get boxes out for the last day of February. And ask that if people can not get the box out by then that they at least be open with their communication and post updates throughout. it has been just about a month since I last heard from him. His last interaction with me was

    2/28/18:
    "Who do I need yo ship to so sorry totally forgot about this."

    I instantly responded to him with his target and told him how everyone was assigned a target within a group message (which he was in). I have since sent him several personal messages and he has not responded to any. It shows he last read my messages on 3/7/18 yet he was last active on BA a week ago.

    Very unfortunate to have several "Bad BIF'r"s in the same pool. Again he was warned that the Bad Trading thread would be the next step, and that clearly wasn't a concern for him.
     
  2. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Poo-Bah (2,205) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey
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    He was just in a BIF with me. He shipped a box there and posted this
     
  3. Piels25

    Piels25 Initiate (169) Dec 17, 2013 Massachusetts
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  4. deadbody

    deadbody Aspirant (238) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    Did he seriously say he wants to open stuff he traded for in his bottle shop in Chicago?

    Holy Christ is that illegal and a great way to get the inspectors all up your bum there.
     
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  5. Victory_Sabre1973

    Victory_Sabre1973 Meyvn (1,437) Sep 15, 2015 Minnesota
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    That's what it sounds like to me.

    I remember several years back when a bar in Minnesota sent someone over to Wisconsin, and got a keg of Spotted Cow.

    They got in serious trouble from the State.
     
  6. mj0126

    mj0126 Initiate (184) Mar 2, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, still awaiting an update on a box for the first segment of our PGA BIF. He mentioned he'd probably be too busy to continue the rest of the season, to which I responded was fine, just send the 22 oz box for the first segment, and we'd call it even. Just checked in for an status on that the other day, but still awaiting response.
     
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  7. dmbforever

    dmbforever Moderator (731) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
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  8. FBarber

    FBarber Poo-Bah (2,416) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    There are definitely bottle shops in Chicago that have beers opened for tasting on like a Saturday afternoon that do not see distribution here. Never really thought about the legality of it, but they don't seem worried since they post about it on Instagram.
     
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  9. swenny916

    swenny916 Aspirant (229) Jan 3, 2010 Illinois
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    I texted him since I oversaw a BIF he was in and he responded and is aware of this thread. That was on Friday, so was kind of hoping he'd say something by now...
     
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  10. Joliet814

    Joliet814 Initiate (120) May 1, 2015 Illinois
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    Don't know the guy but send me his target. I'll send 44oz to someone. And I'll take his spot next year. Bm the target
     
  11. Piels25

    Piels25 Initiate (169) Dec 17, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Crickets.
     
  12. swenny916

    swenny916 Aspirant (229) Jan 3, 2010 Illinois
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    Yep...
     
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  13. Joliet814

    Joliet814 Initiate (120) May 1, 2015 Illinois
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    So you want me to send 44 oz and I'm in next year?
     
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  14. deadbody

    deadbody Aspirant (238) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    Yeah as someone who was for a while on the compliance side of beer with a state agency, just because they post about it doesn't make it legal. A lot of regulators are old, and don't use the instagrams and such.

    In my state thats a huge red flag, like large fines etc...

    I mean maybe its legal in Illinois but I'd be surprised, more likely no one has noticed.
     
  15. CNoj012

    CNoj012 Meyvn (1,418) Dec 7, 2014 New York
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    Is it illegal for him to open it for a share if he is not making any money from it? Like free pours to get people in the door and hope they buy other "legal to sell" beers before they leave? Genuinely curious...
     
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  16. treznor

    treznor Zealot (525) Dec 20, 2006 North Carolina
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    That generally varies by state. And sometimes depending on the whim of the alcohol control authority in that state.

    The case in Minnesota at Maple Grove wasn't similar as the owner drove to Wisconsin, picked up a keg of Spotted Cow, drove it back to Minnesota and charged for it. That's illegal in almost all states (other than DC oddly enough where you can serve whatever you want as long as you go pick it up yourself).
     
  17. JBowenGeorgia

    JBowenGeorgia Defender (610) Sep 1, 2016 Georgia
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    As the winner for that square I'll chime in and say that no point did he communicate with me about the box.
    It's so much about the beer if life gets crazy, just communicate and refrain from future BIF's until you can meet the requirements.
     
  18. Joliet814

    Joliet814 Initiate (120) May 1, 2015 Illinois
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    Hey @JBowenGeorgia just wanted to let you know you have a box on its way to you. Should be there Friday hope you enjoy and sorry you have to deal with a bad trader thread. Hopefully he comes thru with his box but it seems a little unlikely.
     
  19. JBowenGeorgia

    JBowenGeorgia Defender (610) Sep 1, 2016 Georgia
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    Totally unnecessary but much appreciated.
     
  20. JBowenGeorgia

    JBowenGeorgia Defender (610) Sep 1, 2016 Georgia
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    @Joliet814 said he picked a couple bottles from my wants list but I wasn't expecting these. Holy hell!

    The generosity in the beer community never ceases to amaze me. Thank you kind sir!
     
  21. Joliet814

    Joliet814 Initiate (120) May 1, 2015 Illinois
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  22. dmbforever

    dmbforever Moderator (731) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
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    This ended well...bad bif'er gets the *bad trader* banner permanently and beer got delivered in the end by a community member to cover the mistake.
     
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