Bad Trader @DSho

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by zam216, Oct 19, 2016.

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  1. zam216

    zam216 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2014 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    Not sure if I am a little premature here but this was a huge trade I really don't want to be out on. Last week I worked out a trade with this guy for 2 DB hunas and a brandy aged dark lord for over 100 dollars in tired hands cans. The guy did not have any trades completed through the trading statistics so I mentioned this to him and he claimed he has not used the new trade system because he did not understand it and he has done multiple trades listed in his profile. His profile was created in 2011 and did not have any bad trades under his name or other information. Due to the nature of what he was offering I took the risk to get something I really wanted and believed him. We agreed on the trade last Thursday and were supposed to ship on Friday. Due to my hesitation of his profile I wanted him to ship first so I knew he would send. I messaged the trader Friday afternoon letting him know I couldn't ship that day and would be shipping first thing Monday and he replied that he was ok with it and he left my package to be picked up by fedex at his work and he would send me the tracking number that night when he got home because he is a PO and was in court all day and didn't have time to send it to me then. Fast forward to monday and I sent out his package that morning and messaged and texted him again asking for the tracking number and letting him know I shipped and gave him the tracking number. He did not give me a response. On Tuesday I messaged/texted him again saying if I did not get the tracking number by wednesday I was going to cancel the shipment. Well against my better judgement I did not cancel the shipment in hopes I was jumping the gun and now I still have no response from him nor do I have a package or tracking number. I created a shipment through fedex to see how long it should take to get here and it said from florida to philly it should be 3 business days. So assuming they picked up Friday it should have been here by today. What should my next steps be here? I really don't want to be out 100 dollars in beer and a 25 dollar shipping fee and get nothing in return.
     
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  2. zam216

    zam216 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2014 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    the number he gave me just texted back after 3 days saying wrong number...
     
  3. johnyb

    johnyb Pooh-Bah (2,336) Aug 11, 2012 Florida
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    If you had concerns and were going to ask him to ship first why didn't you hold to this given the substantial nature of the trade? By the way, my standard of "shipping first" that I hold new traders and those with no trade feedback on the system to is that I wait to ship until I physically receive the box they sent first, not just have a confirmed tracking number. I don't think it's unreasonable, and something new traders should be held to until they develop credibility here on BA.

    You're not quite there yet, but calling him out on the Bad Trader forum is your next best recourse. Good luck OP!
     
  4. zam216

    zam216 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2014 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    I'll admit there was a lot I should have done here but those db huna don't come by every day so I was a little excited haha. Sadly I like to give people the benefit of the doubt when they say they shipped.
     
  5. RavageCat

    RavageCat Devotee (346) Jun 24, 2014 New Jersey
    Trader

    2 DB Huna and a Brandy Dark Lord seems like a crazy deal for Tired Hands Cans, even over $100 in it... I would have been a little skeptical. Who knows though, I may have done the same thing in hopes of getting it. Hopefully everything works out but I'd be worried too... especially if you got a bogus number.
     
  6. zam216

    zam216 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2014 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    Yeah the number kind of threw all hope out the window... I'll give him another day and then I'll put his name out there
     
  7. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Have you messaged the other trader on BA since Monday? If yes, have they read your message(s)? If not, have they been on BA since Monday? Fedex might not have picked up the package from his work until Monday possibly. Did you try calling the phone number they gave you? Some of the signs are not good but there's a chance it could still work out fine. If they are a PO, something could have come up certainly.
     
  8. zam216

    zam216 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2014 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    I have messaged him every day since Monday. It says he has not been on since Saturday. The phone number he gave texted me back saying I have the wrong number.
     
  9. taplebr

    taplebr Zealot (585) Apr 7, 2015 Arkansas
    Trader

    At what point do people start showing up at the front door of traders like this? I imagine not legal and possibly not smart but damn. It's straight up theft isn't it?
     
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  10. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Have you tried to message any of the trade partners listed on his profile?

    Good luck! Would be a tough loss.
     
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  11. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

    Just waiting for him to name the trader, then a mod will move to bad traders, rename the thread, and tag the bad trader. But somtimes people like to talk it all out before it comes to that.
     
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  12. zam216

    zam216 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2014 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    I am giving him one more day to answer me or the package showing up and then I will give the name.
     
  13. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    So just so I have this right, there was never a trade request or formal trade set up?

    If anything, the first red flag should've been that he was sending you 2 DBHs and a BA Dark Lord for $100 in Tired Hands cans. Most people wouldn't take that for one of those bottles, much less all three.

    Otherwise, I really hope this works out ok.
     
  14. zam216

    zam216 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2014 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    I did send a trade request and it has been sitting there pending. Looking at his account he has 6 others pending and 4 open. He clearly isnt accepting others either.
     
  15. cale_dooper

    cale_dooper Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2013 Pennsylvania

    damn dude sorry to hear.... see if you can find his employer based on his name (or his addy) and well....
     
  16. RNbeerfan

    RNbeerfan Pundit (770) Jan 26, 2015 New York
    Trader

    I hate to post this so soon but I reached out to @dmbforever and he suggested starting this. @DSho and I started talking on October 8th after I replied to his post. We finalized a trade early on 10/11 and he said that he was boxed up and ready to ship whenever. I was sending hops and wanted him to get them by the weekend so I sent out. I shipped on 10/12. I did send a trade request that was accepted first. He does not have any trades under the new system but pointed out all his trades under the old system and the BIFs that he has participated in. Last Wednesday is the last contact I have from him. His box was delivered on Saturday. He was active on here until Saturday. He does have 7 open trades and 3 pending so hoping that he hasn't hit anyone else yet. His communication was great throughout the negotiation process so hoping he is ok.
     
  17. RuckIt

    RuckIt Pundit (940) Apr 29, 2008 Massachusetts
    Trader

    Wow, certainly not a good look for this guy. On the surface it looks like he showed up for a hot minute after years away, lined up TEN (10!!!) trades, and then booked it out of town. @dmbforever is there any way for Admins to see who his trading partners are for those Open/Pending deals? If they haven't shipped already, they should be warned about this thread!
     
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  18. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    If this is the case you need to name this trader NOW.

    Not doing so has possibly caused other people to love beer if this character has decided to scam a bunch of people at once.

    Not trying to blame the victim here, but this additional bit of information should have triggered more red flags than a tsunami warning. Get this person's handle public, now!
     
  19. RNbeerfan

    RNbeerfan Pundit (770) Jan 26, 2015 New York
    Trader

    @RuckIt thats why I posted so early. Agree it would be great if there was a way to see the others.
     
  20. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    This has come up before, wish BA had this feature, would serve as an early warning system and give traders the ability to communicate with the other traders to share info when trades appear to be bad.
     
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