Bad Trader @DSho

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by zam216, Oct 19, 2016.

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  1. zam216

    zam216 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    I would love for this guy to end up getting arrested for all of this theft but I dont think we can really report theft on beer trading that was shipped when shipping beer is illegal...
     
  2. cducap

    cducap Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2011 Indiana

    In this case the "Mercy is for the weak *BBT*" group is really where people need to look. As mentioned, it is a private group so you will need to be added. Someone started a thread there a little while ago. I'd encourage people to add their stories to the thread with any details they might have.

    This is clearly a situation where someone intended to burn as many as possible and didn't think he would face any consequences other than a banned account on BA. Once the savages in that group start looking into this, things will get a bit uncomfortable for him.
     
  3. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    jojo returns
     
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  4. johnyb

    johnyb Pooh-Bah (2,336) Aug 11, 2012 Florida
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    I checked out a knife trading forum this guy is also scamming people on. It lists some other aliases this guy has used. Didn't want to post personal info here but I'll sent it to you.
     
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  5. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    This should help hopefully.
     
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  6. TomDRaleigh

    TomDRaleigh Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2016 North Carolina

    I find it unlikely someone would use thier own name and address to commit this much fraud. Seems likely someone is using thier name and address (and account) to scam people. Maybe a teenage neighbor or son?
     
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  7. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Pooh-Bah (2,445) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    I am not sure what is more disturbing, this guy scamming so many people or the fact that a Knife trading forum actually exists.
    it seems this guy has screwed over too many people though and I would imagine someone will track him down and bring him to justice.
     
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  8. bigda83

    bigda83 Crusader (453) Feb 13, 2014 New York
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    I believe he already has the information. Someone posted the link yesterday, but it got removed. I only know because I replied to it and then got notified my post was removed for containing personal information. I assume this was because I replied to the post with the link since I didn't post any information, nor do I know this guy. They did post the entire knife forum link though.
     
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  9. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    It is, but it would take a ton of permissions work on the forum to set this up for such a small number of people who are already very much aware that they've been tagged as a bad trader.
     
  10. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    Update: He's been banned.
     
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  11. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    @F2brewers I'm curious... Was this member previously a legit trader or was his supposed trading history under the old system just an elaborate sham?
     
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  12. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
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    A number of his past trade partners no longer have active accounts on the site, but I know one or two of them personally through BA interactions. I've sent some BMs and will report back what I hear.
     
  13. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    Also, the name given, city & state all match someone with the same DOB as that shown on his BA profile. Same person or identity theft???
     
  14. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    Is a forum about high end and collectible cutlery any more disturbing than a forum about drinking/trading partially fermented sugar water? The knife community is as large and tight knit as the beer community
     
  15. RNbeerfan

    RNbeerfan Pundit (770) Jan 26, 2015 New York
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    He had certainly been active on the forums. He was on the BIFs that he said he was on. Certainly led to the credibility that I perceived him to have. In retrospect its weird that he wasn't on for so long. Interesting thought that someone could have hacked an account. Who knows. Looks like he had one purpose though and succeeded.
     
  16. zam216

    zam216 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    Well in the mean time if anyone has or knows someone who has a db huna I'd gladly trade you since I'm now out 16 cans of beer and 125 dollars I might as well find this damn bottle!
     
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  17. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    How much did the DBH retail for? I think the ba DL variants were $60/btl in 2016. IF the DBH were $20/btl (which seems low, if anything) the trade for $100 of hops would have been $4$ (possibly even less). For anyone other than an RTP that seems extremely unrealistic.

    That old adage, if it seems to good to be true it is, should always, always, be heeded. I'm NOT victim blaming. Going forward I just hope that those reading here can better protect themselves.
     
  18. RNbeerfan

    RNbeerfan Pundit (770) Jan 26, 2015 New York
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    His initial trade post was looking for beers from Hill Farmstead. I agreed to Flora BB, Elaborative 5 and mixed 4 of VT hops before expanding. I thought that sounded fair on both sides. The guy did seem genuine saying he had more of an old school approach. He asked me later if I would prefer a Huna snifter or a FFF teku as an extra. Definitely seemed knowledgable with beer. Had it been a new account with no feedback I would have been much more weary. Live and learn I guess.
     
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  19. Yourahoser

    Yourahoser Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2014 Florida

    DBH was part of El Cat membership which is 150 for 5 bottles plus a glass and some on-site benefits. El Cat members were allowed to purchase an extra for 55 dollars pre-tax
     
  20. bigda83

    bigda83 Crusader (453) Feb 13, 2014 New York
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    Is it possible to have multiple memberships and get even more bottles that way? Also, does anyone know someone high up at CCB? If this guy actually had these in hand, then it means he's an El Cat member. Maybe they could ban him for the shenanigans he pulled on people perhaps?
     
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