Bad trader Elivictus

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by hunninghake, Sep 21, 2016.

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  1. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    Man... 30+ trades and I'd managed to avoid deadbeat traders, until now.

    I reached out to @Elivictus on August 30th to offer my requested Black Tuesday and Grey Monday regarding a trade for his Sunday Brunch and Morning Bell. He was quick to respond and we proceeded to move forward with the trade. Addresses were exchanged and we made arrangements to go ahead and ship out the following week to accommodate his schedule and the holiday. Unfortunately, I had to head out of town abruptly and communicated back to him that I would ship his box out as soon as I got could when I returned Friday, which he was fine with. I arrived back Friday and let him know I'd be shipping the following day. He replied back that he'd go ahead and ship his out on the way to work (presumably) the same day. So, I shipped the box out the next day and sent him over the tracking info. I didn't hear back from him for a couple of days at which point he apologized, stated that he had been busy and that he'd include some Trillium from a recent drop as extras. He also said that he'd send his box the following Tuesday. Didn't hear back from him Tuesday. Well, my box was delivered and picked up Wednesday and a follow up from him stated that his GF had dropped off the box and that he'd have tracking info later for me..that was the last I ever heard from him. He logged in once (as far as I can tell) between then and now to apparently remove his info and effectively close his account.

    So, I am pretty much relegated to the reality that he likely has dined and dashed on me. I've left the appropriate feedback, but have a feeling it's in vain as I am assuming he's pulled all info from his account and is gone. I'm posting this in hopes that the Admins can take further actions on this account should the account be active and maybe even reach out to him as well if that's the case. If not, then I'm also hoping that they can (possibly/somehow) prevent him from opening additional accounts and doing this to other BA traders.

    Been happy to see a lull in the Bad Traders posts; never would have thought that I would be creating a post in here and subsequently breaking the silence! Live and learn on this one....
     
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  2. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    Do you have contact information on this guy?
    It certainly appears he is looking to screw you over.
     
  3. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    That sucks! He was on 6 days ago.

    Do you have his cell #? Also, a lot of his previous trades were IP, maybe contact the traders to see if they have info on him?

    Don't give up yet, many times people on here have done detective work and tracked these people down.
     
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  4. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Someone has that username on Untappd, but nothing posted on account except name Erik W.
     
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  5. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    I've reached out to all of the previous traders and they were all VERY responsive, which was awesome! Several had numbers from him, but the two that were provided were disconnected. Sounds like this guy either uses a burner of hates people getting a hold of him; I wonder why ;-)

    So, I was able to dig around and did find that the Untapped feed is apparently his. While I haven't seen a check in yet for anything I've sent him...it's quite apparent that this is the guy.

    Would love to see this one come to a happy ending, but I'm not holding my breath.
     
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  6. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    Yeah, I'd say that at this point there isn't a box on its way to me... Both FedEx and UPS confirmed as much. Can probably slide the scale over from looking to screw me over to totally screwed me over! These kinds of guys baffle me... Am hoping that I happened to be in possession of the only two bottles of BT and GM that were bad that year :slight_smile:
     
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  7. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    I'm sorry this has happened to you. You have his name & address. It's reasonable to see if you can reach him via an employer or other family member. There's even a chance he has a land line.

    Definitely let his IP trading partners know. He might belong to local beer groups who'd rather not associated with a thief.

    I don't believe the infamous Herb has showed his face since being outed as a thieving scammer.
     
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  8. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    Is the guy in New Jersey?
    Shoot me his info. If I am reasonably close by I might stop by his house and ask about your beer.
     
  9. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    I appreciate it! Wish all trades were as smooth and trustworthy as ours was Java.

    He has a fairly common name and no Facebook page. His Untapped feed has led to some friends that I might reach out to, but there isn't enough out there to allow me an avenue to reach him directly.

    I've reached out to all of his previous traders and they know that this guy's a total scammer. Am hoping that the mods can also help ensure that he doesn't pop up in BA in the near (or distant) future. I'll likely also reach out to some bad trader groups on FB to make sure that the word gets out. Guy works in the beer industry...totally pathetic that he (or anybody) would resort to this.
     
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  10. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Assuming this is his Reddit page, not sure what that does other than let you see what he looks like (middle of the page) https://www.r3dd.it/u/Elivictus/ @hunninghake pm me I might have his twitter handle where he seems active
     
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  11. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    Judging by the look of the guy, I think god's seen to the appropriate revenge already, lol! Hey, I appreciate you digging into this a little deeper. Any and all info is helpful.
     
  12. nsheehan

    nsheehan Savant (1,206) Jul 3, 2011 Texas
    Trader

    Can you elaborate on this comment? What did they say about him?
    His previous feedback says 89% / 9, so it looks like he may have gotten positive feedback 8 times.
     
  13. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    Not to speak for the OP, but I think he meant that he let the previous traders know that this guy stole beer from him.
     
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  14. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    Could have been better worded on my part in that they all NOW know that this guy is a scammer. Almost all of them had legitimate trades with him with only one having a seemingly less than ideal interaction before he went straight thief.
     
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  15. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    @F2brewers at one time it was mentioned that in some cases PI might be posted by the admins/mods. This situation seems to scream for those measures. Hunninghake used the system appropriately. He sent a couple of very nice & damned expensive beers. Elvictus is such a major douche that he not only lied about shipping, he apparently disabled his account, as well. Honest BA members deserve to know who this lying crook is. If he succeeds in sneaking in again, hopefully a different ID won't be enough to hide behind.
     
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  16. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    He has a habit of flitting around with different accounts on various websites, but has done a poor job of hiding his tracks. And what makes it worse is he works in the industry
     
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  17. MNBeerGeek

    MNBeerGeek Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2013 Minnesota

    I don't think it is unfair to say more, @donspublic. Sharing some of what you have learned is not the same as releasing personal information (which is ultimately up to the mods).
     
  18. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I was bored and tracked him down, turned it over to @hunninghake so it is ultimately his call on how to deal with this. He was trying to reach out to him to give him the chance to do the right thing.
     
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  19. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Society Trader

    @Todd

    Thoughts on this?

    Can we at least provide a name/location?

    Or at least make sure this clown doesn't show up here again?
     
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  20. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    I've confirmed his place of employment and am going to reach out to him today in hopes that he will man up and take accountability for his actions. Am wholly skeptical he will, but I want to take an adult approach to this in lieu of the trader, who obviously isn't.

    Ultimately, I'm hoping that there's a way to make it much more difficult for him to set up an account in BA and do this again to others in the community. Appreciate everyone's assistance and interest!
     
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