Bad trader : Gatorcatcher

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by morsetx, Feb 24, 2016.

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  1. morsetx

    morsetx Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2013 Texas

    Started out ok , then the box he sent was lost (December) . the main bottle was b c rare and he didn't have another one. I agreed to a bottle of bourbon he described and he sent it. But, the top looked wrong and had been tampered with and resealed. I objected , he admitted it and thought I should be happy with a tampered bottle from a stranger. he asked to send it back and he would replace it with an untampered one. I also felt he should send local beer to pay for the shipping. After a long delay , I received a bottle of shelf turd bourbon ( and no beer). I explained I would not accept this. Another delay, and today his response was that he doesn't care about trading here any more.
    I suspect a lost cause. Feel somewhat bad in that the lost box was not his fault. But when he has tried to deceive me twice, I think he should be labeled a bad trader.
    Cheers,
    Morse
     
  2. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

  3. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Pooh-Bah (2,178) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I just want to make sure that I am understanding this correctly..

    He admitted that the bottle had been tampered with and stated that you should be happy to have even received that?
     
  4. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    If everything you said is accurate, this is some of the douchiest behavior I have seen in a bad trader thread.
     
  5. kegnation

    kegnation Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2013 Virginia

    So its ok to substitute bourbon instead of beers if it gets lost?
     
  6. njk82

    njk82 Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2015 Virginia

    Sounds like they agreed to it. I mean, if a box gets lost (hopefully it really did) and two folks work something else out, I think that's fine. Sounds like he didn't want a nice bourbon bottle that has been refilled with something else though, which is understandable.
     
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  7. kegnation

    kegnation Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2013 Virginia

    To me at that point the trade is done, return the beers or find other beers as replacements. This is after all beeradvocate, how often is other items traded with beer?
     
  8. njk82

    njk82 Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2015 Virginia

    I doubt it's very often. I've never done it, but I've seen folks trade bourbon-for-beer on a local board.
     
  9. Preluderl

    Preluderl Pooh-Bah (1,796) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Just want to throw in that the OP is an excellent trader. He and I did a deal a while back and unfortunately one of the bottles he sent to me was damaged. He went WAY above and beyond to make up for what was lost. I really hope this gets taken care of for his sake.

    @Gatorcatcher get ITT and explain yourself.
     
  10. MosaicDrops

    MosaicDrops Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2014 New York

    Based on the description and behavior displayed in the OP, I'd be willing to bet he never even shipped the Rare. Did he give you a tracking number?
     
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  11. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Also OP, did you ship him anything?
     
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  12. South2NW

    South2NW Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 Oregon

    Hate seeing traders I've traded with in the past on these threads. Traded with gatorcatcher right around Christmas for a bottle of rare and some other local beers. Everything went perfectly. Hope chimes in to explain himself. This is unacceptable behavior.
     
  13. rightcoast7

    rightcoast7 Maven (1,330) Apr 2, 2011 Maine
    Trader

    Not quite to the level of the re-waxed KBBS thread, but yeah, this is pretty terrible.
     
  14. dmbforever

    dmbforever Initiate (0) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
    Trader

    @morsetx

    I'm figuring a trader with exceptional stats like yourself, (129) trades and all positive feedback has the convo or text messages that were all involved in this trade?

    Please let me know, either here or send me a message please.

    Cheers,
    Dave
     
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  15. morsetx

    morsetx Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2013 Texas

    The box had a tracking #, this is the first time I have seen a fed ex box totally lost. Was during the holiday season so we waited a few weeks thinking it would show up. He did seem to acknowledge it was his responsibility.
     
  16. morsetx

    morsetx Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2013 Texas

    To moderator - you have my permission (if needed) to look at the entire convo.
     
  17. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Pooh-Bah (2,178) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Did the box show in transit at any point before it became "lost"?
     
  18. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    WTF. We haven't seen tampered caps since that douche sending the Toppling Goliath shit
     
  19. South2NW

    South2NW Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 Oregon

    Any updates on this? He has several recent positive feedbacks. Can't believe someone would do something this crappy and deceptive.
     
  20. morsetx

    morsetx Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2013 Texas

    The moderator is working on it.
     
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