Bad Trader: @Liftoff

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by aViewFromTheHOP, Mar 18, 2015.

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  1. aViewFromTheHOP

    aViewFromTheHOP Devotee (380) Jan 26, 2015 California
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    Made the mistake of not waiting for the trade request to be accepted. We were both new traders at the time and I guess I was naive.

    Package confirmed delivered safely to West Melbourne Florida
    (3 Heady Topper that I picked up during VT travels).

    was supposed to get a 6 pack of the regular Cigar City - Jai Alai.

    He has now not one BA since February 16th. I assume he just made a different account but trying to help anyone that comes after me. If you initiate a trade with ****, tread cautiously he will disappear.

    **PI edited for now until @Liftoff has time to respond.**
     
    #1 aViewFromTheHOP, Mar 18, 2015
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  2. Iamjeff6

    Iamjeff6 Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2013 Virginia

    @Liftoff whats up with this?

    OP: Its always best to tag him so he gets an alert to this thread, if he logs in again.
     
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  3. aViewFromTheHOP

    aViewFromTheHOP Devotee (380) Jan 26, 2015 California
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    Ps. any thoughts on recourse? I mean i have his address, his Facebook his linkedin account, but i feel like it would be petty to pursue it any further. Just a bummer and the way the cookie crumbles sometimes I guess.



    "I trust everyone, its the devil inside them I don't trust." - Donald Sutherland (The Italian Job)
     
  4. Iamjeff6

    Iamjeff6 Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2013 Virginia

    I would not suggest any sort of recourse outside of this thread, and maybe contacting him to see whats up if you have his phone number.

    While its shitty that you didn't get your end of the deal, but after all is said and done you're only out a 6 pack of beer, it could be worse.

    I will be in Florida this weekend, and if I see any I will grab you a 6 pack of it, that's if he doesn't make it right by then.
     
  5. blassor

    blassor Pundit (956) Sep 2, 2010 New Jersey
    Trader

    There is a separate bad trader portion here to post these. I think they normally take out their personal information other than their username.
     
  6. aViewFromTheHOP

    aViewFromTheHOP Devotee (380) Jan 26, 2015 California
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    Oh i didn't know there was a forum for that.

    I thought the username was useless as he created the account just a couple months ago and has had no successful trades. He literally just abandoned his account , I am sure he has made a new one and will most likely prey on yet another unsuspecting victim.
     
  7. aViewFromTheHOP

    aViewFromTheHOP Devotee (380) Jan 26, 2015 California
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    your right it could be worse. thanks for helping me see the positive side. I'm just going to chalk it up to being a little naive on my part. I have to go through the BA trading precautions (having less established traders send first ect.) and I think i'll be fine.

    Hit me up when your in FL would love to trade for any CA distro I have.
     
  8. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    IF you can think of legal, effective recourse, go for it. These fucks getting away with the bs simply enables & emboldens em.

    From a distance, it's difficult to know what, if anything, can be done that's within acceptable parameters. I know some members have resorted to contacting evil doers through family & employers. While that's harsh, & verging on extreme, I think it's warranted & acceptable. It's certainly no more extreme than violating trust, community & civility to rob someone.
     
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  9. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    Also, ask a mod to remove the pi. I know in some cases mods & admins are taking it to that level, which is terrific, but I think they're the only ones permitted to do that here.
     
  10. gator79

    gator79 Initiate (0) Nov 1, 2008 Florida

    If you don't get your beer hit me up and I'll send you some Jai Alai free of charge.
     
  11. core42

    core42 Pooh-Bah (1,838) May 5, 2010 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Yes, it could be worse. I lost ~12 backwoods bastard plus a bunch of extras when I first started but at least we had a trade request set up so I could leave feedback. It's the only time I've lost beer but also the reason that I ask those with 10 or fewer trades to ship first. Don't worry, people like that really are the exception
     
  12. lincolnbeard

    lincolnbeard Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2010 California

    if was only 3 headys, take the loss and walk away.
     
  13. Tbub18

    Tbub18 Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2014 New York

    True, only 3 headys--but for some people, particularly west coast guys who don't trade that often, that might be a little bit tougher to swallow. Sorry to hear about this, OP--sucks when this happens
     
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  14. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

    He has no other account that i can see. Lets see if he replies or if someone can get a hold of him to let him know about this thread.
     
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  15. atrocity

    atrocity Pooh-Bah (2,155) Dec 18, 2013 Virginia
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    Hopefully he comes in here.
     
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  16. jshusc

    jshusc Pooh-Bah (1,630) Aug 16, 2013 South Carolina
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    Understand the sentiment, but in my opinion, he/we all need to let the community know of a bad trader in our midst. Don't think I'd be chasing down family members, etc for a 6 pack, but the bad trader thread is certainly warranted.

    OP, I don't have regular access to jai alai, but I go down to Florida occasionally. If one of these fine gentlemen above doesn't take care of you, I'll grab you some on my next trip.
     
  17. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,000) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    As far as a bad trader thread helping, given his newness and lack of any kind of activity, he has no reputation to lose, so I think this thread will not have any impact on him. But you should have posted it anyway.

    You should contact him on his Facebook page and ask him what is up.
     
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  18. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Pooh-Bah (2,178) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    While it was only 3 HT it is still stealing and a total dick move. You say you have his linked in account? Give him a call at work and ask him about your beers. My guess he will become instantly more responsive when his shady personal life starts to interfere with his work life.
     
  19. lincolnbeard

    lincolnbeard Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2010 California

    I'm just saying... it's weird this dude would go bad trader status for 3 HTs.
     
  20. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Pooh-Bah (2,178) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
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    I agree that it's a lot of effort and non-sense to go through for a few beers. The being said if the only repercussion is the equivalent of banning an account he obviously cared nothing about to begin with then that's not much of a deterrent.
     
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