Bad Trader question. Break a deal, face the wheel?

First question, was address info exchanged?

 

This is why pretrades are stupid, just don't do it. You might have lowballed him on the pretrade and/or he probably got a better offer afterwards.

 

sounds like a great trader. you should keep their username secret.

 

What beer is it?

 

I'm not sure this qualifies on bad trader. I'm not sure I like what he did, but if you hadn't solidified via trade request, hadn't sent addresses, etc. I'm not sure his welching on a pre trade agreement gets him 'outed' to the world. That being said, I have a few trading partners I deal with regularly, and I may warn them via BM of this just to be careful.

 

Was a trade request accepted? If so I think an outing is in order. If not its still a dick maneuver but I would just add him to your do not trade list and move along.

Edit: looks like jshusc beat me to it.

 

Sounds like you went right to the brink of finalizing the trade but I think we usually don't consider it a done deal unless info is exchanged. To be sure, it sounds like he dicked you around a bit - especially since he asked you to ship at certain time - and it seems like poor form on his part and makes him someone I would probably avoid

 

What's up with all the strange period placements?

 

Ah, figured. Thanks.

 

People bitch and moan about the feedback system, but this is EXACTLY what its there for. You agree to a trade, initiate it in the system, and once both parties accept, there is no backing out (which means you better be damn sure if pre-trading).

If one / both parties dont accept a trade thru the system, then there is no trade in place imo, would have moved on after a day or two (of course there are exceptions, like repeat partners you are comfortable with).

I mean, its really pretty simple - no?

 

As much as this sucks for you and was not really cool to do, its not a bad trader IMO. You are out nothing other than some frustration and missing out on possible trades as you mentioned (although this is infinitely better than sending a box and getting nothing in return, which is my def. of bad trader)

 

He asked you to ship yesterday? And he cancelled today?

What was the beer you wanted?

I feel a person is free to back out unless their trading partner has shipped. Is this a douchey move? Yes, but may not warrant public outing. An exception would be if you went out of your way to get somebody something then they decide they don't want it

 

I agree with what others have said here. I don't really think the guy is a bad trader, but he doesn't seem like someone I would want to deal with, especially with the messages you said he sent you.

I don't really like the idea of pre-trading either. Things can always change, so why not just wait until you have the bottles in hand?

If no addresses were exchanged, and the trade wasn't entered in the system, I say just move on. It doesn't sound like you are out any beer.

 

In the long run those who try to maximize every last ounce of beer they have like they were making a stock trade miss out on making long lasting, mutually beneficial trading partners and friends. It sucks when you run into those people, but if you like to trade to share great beer with people in the long run you will be much happier then people who try to maximize every last ounce of beer when they trade.