Bad Trader Submission Form working?

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by IAmJacksHopTongue, May 4, 2013.

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  1. IAmJacksHopTongue

    IAmJacksHopTongue Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2013 Indiana

    I tried to submit dogphishead to the Bad Trader List last week but neither the list nor the Recently Submitted list has updated. Did I make an error or is there lag time?

    Now I see he's back on the ISO/FT forum and I don't want somebody else to get hosed.
     
  2. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Pooh-Bah (2,239) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    It's only one guy that takes care of it. Perhaps try to submit it again.

    In the meantime, care to tell the story on why he is a "bad trader"?

    [edit] I see he has owed you a box for two months now. No excuse not to send a box out if he can put up new ISO:FT threads. Would still like to hear the background story.
     
  3. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    Yeah, this needs to be taken care of before he scams someone else...
     
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  4. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Post thread with his Ba name in title so people are aware, especially since he is active on trade board.
     
  5. Hopbully

    Hopbully Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2009 Virginia

    That's my brother and I know he has been trading boxes and getting them. I'm sure something must have happened? Whoever is having issues please contact me privately and I can possibly help. He def. is not a bad trader or a bad guy at all.

    He left a box for me to send out when we returned from Chicago this past week and I haven't had a chance....it could be the issue..I dunno. I'd like to find out so I can help out whatever had gone wrong with his trade...He lives in NC...I live in VA. Let me know please this has to be a misunderstanding.
     
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  6. Shilt

    Shilt Initiate (0) Dec 26, 2011 Virginia

    Would like to know back story here. Know the guy personally, and is someone I will vouch for, as I drink with his brother regularly.
     
  7. Hopbully

    Hopbully Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2009 Virginia

    Yea, he's def not scamming anyone on here, I can say that with 100% certainty. I'd like to know what's up and I have contacted him b/c he prob has no idea what is going on here.
     
  8. IAmJacksHopTongue

    IAmJacksHopTongue Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2013 Indiana

    Here's the text of what I put into the bad trader submission form (taken from our BA conversation):

    I initiated contact after seeing his ISO/FT post. We agreed on the trade contents and exchanged address info Feb. 27, and I sent my box out same day. He confirmed receipt of my box March 3. On Mar. 4, he informed me that one of the promised beers, 2011 Mother Earth Silent Night was at his parents' house and couldn't be sent for couple of weeks and offered to send 2012 or 2013 instead. I told him I wanted the 2011 and would wait until he could get it.
    March 15, I hadn't heard anything so I checked status and he said he had gotten the Silent Night bottle from his parents' but that it was actually a 2010. He apologized and offered to send me growlers as extras, but I told him I was ok with the 2010 and he didn't need to send growlers.
    March 28, Thursday, no word from him so I asked for an update. He said he was out of town but would send on upcoming Saturday (3/30) or Monday (4/1), whichever I wanted. I asked that he send ASAP and he said he would send Sat., 3/30 and forward tracking info.
    April 2, Tuesday, still no tracking info, so I asked again. He responded that he had been in a bad traffic accident, but would be home Thursday (4/4) and would send.
    April 8; still no tracking info of box, so I asked again. He apologized and said he had forgotten about me but would send the box (and a couple of extras) soon.
    April 16; still no tracking info or box, so I told him that I felt I had to add him to the bad traders list. He said he had been busy with the car wreck and health issues but would send the box regardless of bad trader list, and then chastised me for threatening the bad traders list. I told him I just wanted my beer and he again stated that he was still going to send.
    April 30; 2 weeks after the last assurance; 8+ weeks after he received my beer; still no box and no tracking info. In the interim I've completed four distance trades and two IP.
     
  9. Photekut

    Photekut Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2006 Tennessee


    He sounds like a great guy...

    Thanks for calling him out so I can add him to my do not trade list.

    He had time to travel to Chicago and set up new trades, but not ship out a two month old trade?
     
  10. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Pooh-Bah (2,239) Jan 8, 2009 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Well if what OP wrote above is even remotely true, he most certainly does know what is going on.
     
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  11. Hopbully

    Hopbully Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2009 Virginia

    I have talked to my brother and in his defense he has had some bad luck and had been out of town on 3 separate occassions recently. He owed 4 bottles, left a 12 bottle shipper full for me to send out to the OP for him when we met up at my place and left for DLD. I had no idea what was here really...I remembered him saying it was a box that needed to go out, but I didn't know the backstory. Anyway, I have it here, and I have the correct address and will send it out with my other trade on Monday morning. Sorry for all of the confusion...but 12 bottles are on the way to the OP hope this smooths everything over.
     
  12. Hopbully

    Hopbully Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2009 Virginia


    In his defense he started a new job and things have been quite hectic and the car wreck didn't help. He should have sent the box out before leaving it with me to send out...I really didn't know the whole story...Sounds like it took awhile to get the correct Silent Night and some back and forth between you guys....Everyone is getting their beer! Anyway..life gets hectic..no one is trying to screw anyone over. I'm sorry if people got upset.
     
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  13. IAmJacksHopTongue

    IAmJacksHopTongue Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2013 Indiana

    Once the beer shows up (for what it's worth, I do believe that Hopbully will have the beer en route Monday) I will let the bad trader moderator decide whether dogphishead belongs on the list based solely on the delay. That seems like a community decision for someone who has been here longer than I.
     
  14. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
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    I understand he's flesh & blood, but there's no excuse for not sending out a promised box for two months. Period. If he has other things going on/happening in his life, he should get out of beer trading for a while. Full stop.

    That said, good for you stepping up & making sure it gets taken care of, I'm sure the OP appreciates it.
     
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  15. dogphishead

    dogphishead Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 North Carolina

    Yes there is a back story and yes I owe this guy a package. In fact, I'm sending him 12 bottles instead of the 4 that I owe as an apology for the delinquency on my behalf. My cellar is split between my fridges & my parents basement due to my building having window a/c & baseboard heat in downtown Raleigh, NC. One of the bottles for IamJackHopsTongue was in my parents basement with tons of other bottles. I apologized and offered to replace it immediately or it would take a few weeks to go get it. Since then, I've been out of state for work constantly, wrecked my car in another state & was stranded there, and also had some health issues. I've stayed in contact with the guy on the other end of this trade and promised to send triple the amount of bottles that I owe him. I left a 12 bottle shipper, packed & taped, for him at my brother's house last week. I had to work unexpectedly and had to head back to NC, but my brother is in the process of sending a 12 bottle shipper to this guy. I am responsible for forgetting to send this box out every time I've been home lately but, in no way am I trying to scam anyone. I am often out of state for work and simply forgot when I've been home. Shame on me. All I can do is send the box along with a bunch of extra stuff as an apology. I even told the guy to go ahead and submit me to the bad trader list if he wanted, but I'd still send his box with 8 extra bottles, regardless. It will go out on Monday. Again, my sincere apologies.
     
  16. dogphishead

    dogphishead Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 North Carolina

    Maximum, hopbully did not step in to take care of it. I left the box with him & asked him to send it for me. Period.
     
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  17. dogphishead

    dogphishead Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 North Carolina

    Also, I have not set up any new trades since then. I posted an ISO last night around 2am, but that's it.
     
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  18. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    FedEx has this amazing service where they pick up a package from you, in case you're so busy you can't take 5 minutes to stop into one of their stores. Works great.
     
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  19. Brew33

    Brew33 Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2007 Ohio

    It's funny how some public pressure will make these bad traders make things right. It's good that the OP is getting his beers but it sucks that there are so many bad traders that only cave when their name gets out there in public.
     
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  20. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Yeah, life gets in the way until public humiliation steps in to make life okay again.

    Can't speak for everyone, but I don't think this guy should be on the bad trader list, assuming this box actually gets sent this time.

    That said, this guys's lifestyle make's him an extra prime candidate for him sending first, always, or no trade.
     
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