Bad Trader: TallGuyCM

Anyway - I appreciate the opportunity to share my side of the story, regardless. I’ve been out of town since Friday without much cell service, and won’t be back until Tuesday. Will come back to this thread then.

 

It's not all that "diplomatic" to ignore the messages of a trader you've failed to meet your end of the deal on, either. Weird that civility and custom gets brought up at this point in the conversation.

Not the end of the world, but you're clearly in the wrong here based on your account in my estimation.

Best of luck in making this right.

 

I can certainly sympathize with the difficulty of a trade going wrong due to no fault of one's own. It's happened to me before, it sucks. But that's a risk we all take when we agree to a trade, and the community at large has collectively decided (rightly, in my estimation) that the burden and risk is on the sender until it gets to the recipient.

Trying to get around that norm is not good and shouldn't happen. It sounds like everything OP did here is reasonable, and I'm happy it sounds like this will work out.

 

this whole comment is an issue. For proxying, yeah you assume the risk. For trading it’s all about in your possession. If it’s delivered and stolen, up for interpretation. If you assume once you drop it off it’s not your problem, that’s a huge issue. What if you suck at packing? What if someone claims that it’s not updating due to USPS, but they never actually dropped it off?

really feel like it’s an issue with this assumption. I think most people here WOULD be shipping the freshest Monkish they could get to make the trade right

 

@TallGuyCM what others have said is correct. You are on the hook to get your box to the OP’s porch. OP has no idea that you actually sent it, or how good or bad you packaged it. Why should he be out beer if the reason it didn’t make it was your poor packaging?

 

I think the only way if I sent someone a box and they didn’t receive it that I wouldn’t feel 100% responsible is if they had a Ring cam and had proof someone stole it off their porch. I’d still send another box and have them sign for it.

 

I will say this is one of the more civil bad trader threads, but @TallGuyCM you just squandered a chance to fix this. You had an easy opportunity on this thread to make this right. Instead you just shared your side of the story and didn't take responsibility. I don't understand how you had enough cell service to share your side of the story while you were out of town, but curiously not enough service to make the trade right. You don't seem like a bad person here, misguided yes, but not a bad person. You still have an opportunity to make this right by sending a box of beer. Seems like an easy enough fix regardless of what language is used in messaging.

 

You're not entirely sure what to do? Replace the box that was lost.

Mitchell doesn't need to meet you in the middle, you need to replace the box right away.

 

New variation of its only beer, the “shipping beer is illegal” defense.

You are on the hook to replace the beer that didn’t make it, no questions asked. This has always been the tried and true rule here.

 

He would be a fool to send you another box of beers just to get the 16 beers he didn’t get first time!!!

Your way off base, send him the 16 beers, throw in some extras too for putting him through having to deal with your warped logic.

 

You are correct.

 

You are way off-base.

 

@TallGuyCM not sure if you'll get this given your spotty cell service. Once you've made this right, you can go to "Alert Preferences" and then check the box "Mentions you in a message" under the "Messages in threads section". That way if/when you're next tagged in a BT thread you won't be reliant on those kind souls giving you a heads up.

I wish that one day there would be a response to a BT thread that doesn't automatically get an eye roll.

 

Crazy that the guy who traded for fresh Monkish actually wanted it to be fresh, the nerve!

 

Yep. Will DM you.