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The $40 was for the entire shipment, not just for the one bottle of Bitches Brew.

 

The guy needs to ship you Bitches Brew and that is it. Also unless you specifically told him to claim the box as a gift and place a lower value amount on the box, then he does not need to pay you back for the $40 customs fee. That is irrelevant in my opinion. You should know the risks over overseas shipping and the possibility of having to pay customs fees.

 

How in the world are you guys even understanding what this man is saying? You are much more patient than I.

 

Rosetta Stone.

 

Just realized that English is probably not his primary language? If so, I feel a bit bad for my comment. If it is, I wish I would have been more harsh.

 

I see what you mean, didn't realize that is what the box consisted of...$100 is way off for those bottles, a quick calculation puts those beers around $60.00. What is his explanation if this ?

 

If you need to know how much beer cost prior to you making a trade you can try google the price of beer or go to beermenus.com and check by area how much the beer is selling for that way you can make a $4$ trade and know what you are getting
As far as this trade you already agreed and shipped so stop complaining about the fact that you got what you were supposed to but now you feel you should have got more. Only the people involved know exactly what was worked out in the details about the shipping cost and if so than the other trader must pay what was agreed upon and Of course he need to make up the bitches brew which is like $10.99 I can't believe if this is about that small amount or if the shipping cost are really an issue you should have had him paypal you prior to the trade.

 

I'd be happy going money for money for some zwanzies...I will replace broken bottles

 

anytime something breaks its a chance we all take.... but a solid stand up guy would replace the broken ones. I have always feared that with an international trade that and customs employees drinking it on their break time

 

On the high side of retail you're looking at around $50 worth of beer there....but that should have been addressed prior to agreeing on the trade and has no bearing on the situation now.

 

I think his point is why would the shipper declare a $100 value. If you are going to trade internationally you should do some research. If there is going to be a tax levied on the OP for the package you should be understating the value if anything, not doubling it.

 

if someone offered me a trade that is that lopsided i would of had to of said something to the overseas guy that he was offering something to ridiculous..... or just filled his porch with extras.....
I know somebody that has traded overseas and sent just off the shelf stuff nowhere near equal in value...... its not right man. do some research before trading like that especially that zwanze. the dog fish head guy should of known better. but its a different story if you offered that up not knowing anything about the trade ..... who knows you could have cases of it too

Iso zwanze ft a fair deal and replacement bottles if breakage occurs..... its the right thing to do step up and be a good trader!

 

yes it does. Kraddel got taxed based on the claimed amount. The sender claimed $100 (probably because that is the amount shipping companies will automatically cover). So Kraddel got taxed $40 on the $100, whereas it sounds like it should have been about $20 (going off of $50 worth of beer). I have never shipped internationally so i do not know if these are fees the sender should have paid before hand, or who should be held liable to pay the fees if it is billed to the receiver.

 

If I knew I was being taxed based on the amount the person sending me a box wrote on the form I'd be sure to tell them to keep the amount low....that didn't seem to happen here. The guy assumed the US trader knew that....and you know what happens when you assume....

 

True, but we all make assumptions when we trade. I don't need feel a need to tell people I trade with not send USPS, tell them they are shipping alcohol, or that they need to properly pack a box so nothing breaks.

 

I agree. And some people might not be comfortable declaring a fake amount. I think Kraddel is at least liable for half of the tax. The confusing part is why the sender overvalued the shipment. If it was for insurance reasons, then he is on the hook for that difference.

 

That's a little different, common sense tells you your mission is to get the beer safely to its location, but when you start dealing with international trades, customs, import taxes etc, there needs to be some dialogue about what is expected.

 

I do agree there should have been a discussion, but ignorance isn't a good excuse. If he went with $50 as the declared value, I don't think the OP would be owed anything besides something to address the one leaking bottle. You can't be mad if someone isn't willing to cheat the system. However, by declaring the value to be $100 he cost the OP ~25 because of his ignorance (assuming he didn't know what he was doing).