Bar sues Florida over beer growler ban

Discussion in 'South Atlantic' started by Snowshoes, Oct 29, 2014.

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  1. Snowshoes

    Snowshoes Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2014 Pennsylvania

    http://tbo.com/ap/bar-sues-florida-...ocial&utm_source=Facebook&utm_campaign=buffer

    Specifically the 64 oz. growler. I mean...it does seem illogical to permit 32 oz. and 128 growlers, but not the industry standard 64 oz. variety. Does anyone find it at all surprising that Anheuser-Busch distributors are the chief opponents to the bill?

    I find it amazing that a distributor can have any say in how beer is sold by the purveyors they supply.

    Looks like Anheuser's suing everyone these days. Guess pursuing legal action is easier than making better beer.

    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/anheuser-busch-is-sueing-kentucky.222570/
     
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  2. rightcoast7

    rightcoast7 Maven (1,330) Apr 2, 2011 Maine
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    I agree that the 64 oz ban is silly and illogical, but I never understood why anyone gives a shit. 64 oz is more beer than I would typically want to drink in a sitting, so I'd likely keep buying the 32 oz ones anyway. Seems like a lot of breweries are using that size these days by choice.
     
  3. NoMoreBeerBelly

    NoMoreBeerBelly Pundit (825) Dec 2, 2009 North Carolina

    I think 64oz is the sweet spot for price and convenience. I know a 32oz growler here (CLT) is definitely more $/oz than a 64oz growler. A 128oz growler is lost on me unless you have 3+ buddies splitting it.

    For example here, a 32oz growler may run $9 for 32 or $14 for a 64. That is a 33% discount per oz when getting a 64oz growler. It is like "buy 3 pints get 1 free" when you get the 64oz growler. I can't explain that pricing model but I aint in retail.

    We have a long way to here. So many of these growler places prices are out of whack. For example, a 64oz growler of something like Olde Meck is $12 where a 6 pack (available almost everywhere) costs $10 (and you get more beer in a 6 pack). :astonished: :astonished: :astonished:
     
  4. kayakandbeer

    kayakandbeer Zealot (708) Aug 16, 2013 Florida
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    We almost got shut out of buying beer from the brewery totally. If 64oz of beer is so important then just get 2-32oz Growlers. I drink a shit load of beer through the week and I just don't see the need for the fight for 64oz growlers. IMO. Is it stupid that we don't have the industry standerd...yes. Sure we don't want government telling us what we can and can't have, but let a sleeping dog sleep and enjoy what we have. It's total B.S. that a business is saying that they are losing money on this law. They are making money buy selling a lesser quantity for a larger amount. Just my 2¢ which doesn't count for much
     
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  5. HopsJunkiedotcom

    HopsJunkiedotcom Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2010 Florida

    The Crafted Keg is mostly just trying to make a name for themselves, so they found a way to make a name (though I hope they win on principle). They're losing business because The House of Brews in Jensen is a better beer bar. Better selection, better atmosphere, etc. Plain and simple.
     
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  6. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Pooh-Bah (2,445) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    I agree with this and the FL law is ridiculous but if Florida Bars and Breweries were smart they would offer discounts for …... 2-320z. fills as a way to make the stupid law a little more bearable to FL residents. So if your charging $9 for a 32 oz growler fill, give the customers a 2 for $15-$16 price. We have 64oz growler fills in NJ but I end up filling mostly 32's and even when i want 64 oz. of beers I tend to fill the 2 smaller growlers anyway cuz the beer just stays fresher if i don't open the 2nd one right away.
     
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  7. basto

    basto Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2014 Utah

    I think there are 3 states that don't allow 64oz I know there are a few that don't allow 32oz. Some states will only allow a brewery to fill a growler you purchased from them... and some states don't allow them at all...


    If you ask me, allowing the states to regulate liquor laws makes for a giant mess. Can we just strike section 2 of the 21st amendment?
     
  8. Tim_Brack

    Tim_Brack Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2014 Florida

    Florida is one of three states holding on to this law. 64 is the industry standard and many will continue to get by with the 32's. What is absurd is the law that was proposed in order to make the 64s legal. It would have crushed small craft breweries requiring them to shut down tap rooms and not sell special release bottles which are large revenue streams. Its only a matter of time until these three states wake up and realize they are hurting small business growth by helping large beer companies.
     
  9. kayakandbeer

    kayakandbeer Zealot (708) Aug 16, 2013 Florida
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    Not meaning give in, just enjoy what we have at this time until we can get the right people elected so we and the breweries don't get shafted at the last minute by a bait and switch tactic.
    I personally don't have much use for the 64, but would like to have the option...damn right.
     
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  10. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Here in the Triad area of NC, at least one shop I know has the exact same price per ounce for 32 oz or 64 oz growlers (and reasonable prices at that)... Glad that we have Stella Brew in Winston-Salem!
     
  11. Lare453

    Lare453 Pooh-Bah (2,884) Feb 1, 2012 Florida
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    I don't get what the bad is with 64oz growlers...
     
  12. NavyGuy

    NavyGuy Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2008 Florida

    Legend has it that the law was originally passed to stop the sales of 40's of malt liquor out of the corner store, which is also why if you look in your local gas station you won't see anything over 22 oz in the cooler. Like many laws it has had an unintended impact and is now being defended by the macro industry for the wrong reasons...
     
  13. HopsJunkiedotcom

    HopsJunkiedotcom Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2010 Florida

    Except for those 25oz Mango-Ritas I bought last night. And those 32oz Mission cans I bought too....
     
  14. NavyGuy

    NavyGuy Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2008 Florida

    Sorry, meant to say 32, anything above 32 and below 1 gallon is prohibited:

    (6) All malt beverages packaged in individual containers sold or offered for sale by vendors at retail in this state shall be in individual containers containing no more than 32 ounces of such malt beverages; provided, however, that nothing contained in this section shall affect malt beverages packaged in bulk or in kegs or in barrels or in any individual container containing 1 gallon or more of such malt beverage regardless of individual container type.
     
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