Barleywine Appreciation Thread (2022)

Discussion in 'The Bar' started by DIM, Jan 4, 2022.

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Which type of Barleywine do you prefer?

  1. American

    97 vote(s)
    17.0%

  2. English

    295 vote(s)
    51.8%

  3. That's like asking me to choose my favorite child, I love them all!

    162 vote(s)
    28.5%

  4. Neither, if Barleywine is life then life has no meaning.

    15 vote(s)
    2.6%
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  1. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I bought some older barleywines recently and opened 3 of them in the last week or so with mixed results.

    Old Knucklehead from 2008 was drinkable but way past it's prime.

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    Barrel Roll #4 from 2013 was a bit long in the tooth but enjoyable.

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    Red wine barrel aged Old Guardian from 2013 is drinking great right now!
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    More details in the cellar review thread.
     
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  2. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    I too wish more Wheat wines were available.
    I brewed a 12.7% beast last year and it was fantastic!
    More breweries should try their IPA soaked hands at some.
    And White Barleywine, WTF?
    That sounds as dumb as a White Stout. One of the most gimmicky beers ever! Yak.
    I'm still waiting for the "Session Barleywine."
     
    #662 crazyspicychef, Apr 24, 2022
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  3. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I'm with you on more wheatwine. I've had some great pale barleywines though, Helldorado from Firestone for example. I think the style guidelines for barleywine are a lot more forgiving than for stout? How do you feel about black barleywine?
     
    #663 DIM, Apr 24, 2022
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  4. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    It would depend on what grains they use to make it "black.". Too much black patent would throw it off, but a de-bittered black or a black wheat could work.
    Celebrator pushes the darkness boundary a bit.
    I wish I could get ahold of that Firestone Walker. They make solid brews.
     
    #664 crazyspicychef, Apr 24, 2022
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  5. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Jim Anderson……not sure if he still owns the pub, the Anderson. I think I read he was getting out of the business a few years back.



    Enjoy
     
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  6. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Would that be a barelywine?
     
    #666 DIM, Apr 25, 2022
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  7. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Just Barley .
     
    #667 Resistance88, Apr 25, 2022
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  8. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Keep these jokes up and I'll give you something to wine about...
     
    #668 Beer_Economicus, Apr 25, 2022
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  9. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Of course not! Is a Session IPA really an IPA?
     
    #669 crazyspicychef, Apr 25, 2022
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  10. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I think you missed my terrible pun. Barelywine not barleywine. My apologies to the board.:flushed:

    And yes, session IPAs are an abomination.
     
    #670 DIM, Apr 25, 2022
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  11. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Ah, I got it! Sorry, I'm a bit slow today. Lol.
     
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  12. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Ever since the term "India pale ale" existed, examples comparable in strength to modern American "session IPAs" have existed.
     
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  13. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Sure, pale ales come in various strengths. My beef is with the marketing gimmick of over hopping a 4% ABV pale ale to point that it is a bitter mess and calling it a session IPA because IPA has to be on the label or it won't sell.
     
    #673 DIM, Apr 27, 2022
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  14. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    A coffee barleywine from Arrow Lodge called Arrow Press. I like the kitschy label.

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    This drinks more like an imperial brown ale than a barleywine. There is a sweet nuttiness to the malts that works well with the medium roast coffee. I'm also getting a little vanilla and black bread crusts. I'm diggin' it.
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  15. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    I reviewed Põhjala Triple Barrel Barley Wine last Sunday on NBS(W).
    You can find my comments here.

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    I liked this beer a lot and I rated it:
    L: 4.0 | S: 4.75 | T: 4.5 | F: 4.0 | O: 4.5 | Rating: 4.48

    I closed my review/commentary with this:

    "I suppose it is classified as an American-style Barley Wine on this site because of how far it strays from the traditional English-style. The American-style Barley Wine is a much broader style, allowing for deviations such as this. It is black, sweet, complex, and boozy."

    Since then, I've been wondering about what ARE the boundaries for an American-style Barley Wine? And, if you have had this beer before, what do you think? Is it a barley wine? Or, is it a stout?

    I know, the brewer calls it a barley wine, etc. But, is it really a barley wine?
     
    #675 MNAle, Apr 28, 2022
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  16. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    So, is it a Black BW?
     
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  17. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Aside from the color, did it have any other stout-like qualities? Tasted blind, what do you think you would have called it?

    As @Beer_Economicus says maybe it's a black barleywine, they seem to be becoming more common. Have you tried any? I have one of these in the queue and I'm looking forward to it.
     
    #677 DIM, Apr 28, 2022
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  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Reportedly The Anderson Hotel was up for auction a couple of years ago but according to the post below (Nov. 2021), Jim is still the owner of the hotel:

    “The owner’s take on Philadelphia style food is spot on. The menu is small enough that it’s easy to choose a dish without getting overwhelmed by variety. The food itself is perfectly cooked, with beautiful presentation. Unfortunately we couldn’t choose the entire menu, but will come back again to make a serious dent in it.
    Jim and his staff are personable and knowledgeable about their offerings, and Jim’s knowledge of whisky is phenomenal. He also knows a fair bit about music too!
    Added to my list of favourite eateries.”

    https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_R...and_Cromarty_Scottish_Highlands_Scotland.html

    Cheers!
     
    #678 JackHorzempa, Apr 28, 2022
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  19. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Loving the name on this one!
     
    #679 Beersnake, Apr 28, 2022
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  20. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    That Hammerhead was incredible fresh. I wish they still make this stuff, but it looks like they aren't doing any Barrel Roll stuff anymore.
     
    #680 Beersnake, Apr 28, 2022
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