Barrel aged/pastry stout adjuncts

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by bubseymour, Nov 25, 2020.

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What are your favorite additives in stouts

  1. Cocoa Nibs

    19 vote(s)
    18.3%
  2. Coconut

    30 vote(s)
    28.8%
  3. Vanilla

    22 vote(s)
    21.2%
  4. Maple Syrup

    20 vote(s)
    19.2%
  5. Coffee

    55 vote(s)
    52.9%
  6. Hazelnut

    3 vote(s)
    2.9%
  7. Dark Chocolate

    11 vote(s)
    10.6%
  8. Peppers

    12 vote(s)
    11.5%
  9. Oreo Cookies

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  10. Peanut Butter

    10 vote(s)
    9.6%
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  1. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    When I thought of this poll, I approached it more as “what additives usually work most of the time well, what are in my favorites, and which ones seem to work sometimes but find a lot of misses frequently as well. IMO the most consistently good with fewest misses seemed to be use of coconut. Coffee and vanilla are used quite frequently but seem all over the map in beer quality. Just my experiences. Hazelnut is pretty rarely used, but most of the time it seems to work pretty well albeit, usually ends up as a pretty sweet end product.
     
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  2. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    Voted peppers and coffee... love some kick in my stout
     
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  3. slander

    slander Pooh-Bah (2,568) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    Blueberries and Cherries in lower ABV beers like the Dark Horse Tres (love) and the Bells Cherry Stout, hell yes, but I just don't really see them as a presence in a pastry stout.
     
  4. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    I only picked one... coconut. Although, if cinnamon had been a choice, I'd have definitely picked that, too.

    Coffee and chocolate are both very fine but I'm always more impressed when the brewer manages to express those flavors without actually using them. I suppose these days you could get coconut using sabro but I don't expect that would hold up much past a year.

    Also, I just get fatigued by coffee stouts - entire months go by when every single stout on the shelf is a coffee stout. Or a coffee stout masquerading as a coffee porter.
     
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  5. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    Which, vomit or donut?
     
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  6. MikeWard

    MikeWard Grand Pooh-Bah (3,023) Sep 14, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Could have gone with 5 (Peppers, Dark Chocolate, Maple Syrup) but settled on Coffee & Cocoa Nibs. raspberrry is good too, if luscious.
     
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  7. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    Only because I forgot. :stuck_out_tongue:

    I will admit to being partial to Michigan blueberries and Montmorency cherries. Does that make you feel any better?
     
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  8. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,045) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    I chose coffee and peanut butter because I feel like just about every beer I had with peanut butter in it actually tasted like peanut butter, and coffee is always good for me as long as it doesn't have that vegetal green bell pepper taste. I do enjoy all of the options though when done right.
     
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  9. Junior

    Junior Pooh-Bah (1,883) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    I voted for cocoa nibs and coffee. The only one that really don't like is coconut. I've never had Oreos in a beer and likely will not. I've never had a peanut butter in a stout. I had it in a porter (I know, not much different) and it was fine but a little artificial tasting.

    Side note: Hazel's Nuts is one of my favorite barrel aged and flavored stouts.
     
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  10. rolltide8425

    rolltide8425 Pooh-Bah (2,470) Feb 18, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Cocoa nibs and coffee for me, with coffee far and way being the top choice. Next tier would be hazelnut, maple(in moderation), and dark chocolate. A couple people have mentioned cherry, that seems to be very hit and miss when it comes to stouts. Cherry stouts can be done very right, but also very wrong.
     
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  11. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    The only one on this list that I would ever want in a stout is coffee.
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I do not have much experience as regards the flavoring of vanilla but I have had a number of stouts that used coffee as a flavoring and they have been hit or miss: sometimes I pick up an acrid aspect from the coffee and this would constitute a miss for me.

    There are a number of variables when it comes to using coffee as a flavoring: variety of coffee, roast level, format of coffee (e.g., whole beans vs....), how much coffee is added for flavoring, when is the coffee added to the brew,...

    Cheers!
     
  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Nah, the flavor is hard to nail, but doesn't ferment out. If flavors fermented out how would beers ever taste malty?
     
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  14. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    It's like comparing black patent to chocolate malt. Some coffee is more "smooth" than others.
     
  15. jonphisher

    jonphisher Grand Pooh-Bah (3,850) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Flavor (malty as you describe it) doesn’t ferment out, sweetness does. Taste a wort prefermentation it tastes like sugar watery and bitter grain.

    So I’m just going off that, the distinct sweetness of maple wouldn’t be there if it got fermented out cause said sugars got consumed. Just like the sweetness of the wort disappears. That’s the basis for my guess...
     
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  16. Dupage25

    Dupage25 Savant (1,044) Jul 4, 2013 Antarctica

    I knew coffee would win without even looking, though I will never understand the hype behind them.

    Vanilla is #1 for me. I struggled deciding between dark chocolate or peppers for #2, but realistically most pepper-spiced stouts also have chocolate added, so kind of a moot argument...
     
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  17. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I get where you're coming from, however adjuncts like honey, invert sugars, Belgian candy sugars etc all leave a very distinct flavor profile behind post fermentation. Even plain sugar leaves behind it's own flavor profile. They may not be sweet, but they do leave their calling card. Maple has a very distinct flavor as well both pre and post fermentation. Some breweries use a back sweetening process with maple to retain the sweetness.
     
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  18. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Darn, forgot about bacon as an voting option....seems every other pastry is a maple bacon coffee these days. Need that protein/cholesterol kick to your breakfast beer.
     
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  19. Junior

    Junior Pooh-Bah (1,883) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    Like this one:

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22564/430129/

    I don’t taste the bacon and it’s actually pretty good.
     
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  20. Insomniac

    Insomniac Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2019 Canada (ON)

    Coffee and dark chocolate are the obvious choices for me and harder for the brewer to overdo than some of the other choices.

    Vanilla and maple syrup work for me as long as they don’t overwhelm the final product.

    I would love to see more stouts with peppers in them (think Chili chocolate).

    I haven’t really cared for any of the coconut beers I’ve tried and peanut butter doesn’t interest me in the slightest.
     
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