Basic questions about electric brewing kettle

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  1. YourBeerRunner

    YourBeerRunner Aspirant (212) May 3, 2022

    I'm window shopping for an electric brew kettle. Need to mash and boil in it. Can I just use a fancy hot water heater? I posted two examples. Can someone point me in the right direction here?

    I want my mash temps more consistent and easier to control than the stovetop. I do all-grain BIAB so everything is pretty compartmentalized. I just need decent temp control. Advice? Looking for 120V.

    Below, you can see this Sparge Water Heater by Grainfather. It's 18L and $169.00.
    https://www.webstaurantstore.com/av...9-liter-water-boiler-120v-1500w/177WB19L.html

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    Here, you can see another brand, Avantco, for much less. 19L at $109.99.
    https://www.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/large/479410/2461542.jpg

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  2. venneman

    venneman Devotee (321) Dec 1, 2012 Oregon

    I suppose either one would work, though it seems the Grainmaster is more of a task-specific tool versus what really seems like a souped-up coffee urn. By that, think of precise temp control. If they have digital temp controls, then I’d say go for it. If it’s a dial temperature control that gets you in the range of a specific temperature, I might pass unless you plan on going all-grain and need to boil sparge water.
     
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  3. YourBeerRunner

    YourBeerRunner Aspirant (212) May 3, 2022

    Thanks. The task-specific digiboil has the digital input. But I'm discovering that lots of these vendors don't make claims as to their precision. I guess that's what I need to know...how precisely can these boilers hold for over an hour?

    As a BIABer, I do sparge. I remove the grain bag from the wort and sparge it outside of the kettle separately, then combine.
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  5. YourBeerRunner

    YourBeerRunner Aspirant (212) May 3, 2022

    Nice link -- and thank you! However, my BIAB setup is almost all in one. I use one kettle with which I mash and boil and cool, and all I do is sparge on the side for about 15 mins. With an electric kettle, I would have what I need: freedom to plug it in elsewhere and huge time-savings on temp control (plus more precise mashes).

    With an electric kettle, I could see how cooling the wort would be another step for me.
     
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    YourBeerRunner Aspirant (212) May 3, 2022

  7. venneman

    venneman Devotee (321) Dec 1, 2012 Oregon

    Please share your experience! I'm looking to get back into brewing, and could use recommendations on gear.
     
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  8. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    I think the DigiBoil is a good choice. I have one. It will hold a steady mash temp and come to a boil in a reasonable time - maybe not as fast as a big propane cooker but much faster than most stove tops. Wrapping a little insulation around the outside helps a lot. While it will hold a steady temperature, it may not be super accurate; for example my unit's "154F" is actually 152. But once you check it with a good thermometer and know its bias you are all set. Do the calibration with plain water. It's too hard to get a true even temperature in a mash. And being off by 2 or 3F is not a big deal anyway.
     
  9. YourBeerRunner

    YourBeerRunner Aspirant (212) May 3, 2022

    Somehow this info has been hard to find online. Thank you. If that is +/- 1.5F, even if it's off by a couple, sounds good to me. Do you recirculate? Do you use one of those interior SS filter screens ie bazooka screen? I think I'll build my own but utilize more surface area and a finer filter for fine sediment (<75 microns).
     
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  10. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    I recirculate manually with a couple of pots right now; have a pump from another project that I have not hooked up yet. I have the full Digimash setup but am putting a BIAB type bag in the malt pipe because the screen on the bottom is easily disturbed. I considered brazing it in place but it's a little flimsy and might warp. IMO, you can do fine with this item as a regular BIAB without the mashing accessory; you just need a setup for hanging the bag.
     
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  11. YourBeerRunner

    YourBeerRunner Aspirant (212) May 3, 2022

    What I plan to do with BIAB in the digiboil is use a version of a false bottom to elevate the grain above the bottom where the heat is concentrated. I'll circulate and do a lautering of sorts mid-mash by filling a vessel with filtered wort and returning it at the top of the digiboil. The grain bags I use of are drawstring-close and have a length of cord to utilize. I'll try that and improvise.
     
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  12. YourBeerRunner

    YourBeerRunner Aspirant (212) May 3, 2022

    The user must create great conditions for the machine to gauge and maintain a desired temperature, and otherwise works very well. I've used it for 2 brews now and I THINK it's going to be awesome after some upgrades.

    A few notes. If there's any chance the grain in a bag will sit at the bottom on the thermometer probe, then some type of false bottom or rack is needed to lift the grain off the bottom. Otherwise, the temperature will be wrong and wildly uneven.

    Recirculating the wort manually is a labor of love, and does not allow one to go far from this electric kettle. I now realize that I'm going to invest in a recirculation pump, and make this easier with more consistent temperatures.

    Some type of insulation is needed for this device, especially for smaller liquid volumes. Like others have stated, it can do it in +/- 2° pretty easily, and that will certainly improve with the insulation and good recirculation.

    Even though I only have the 110V, it heats up plenty fast for my needs.

    In summary, I think it's a great device with some necessary aftermarket items: a false bottom or rack, external insulation, and a recirculation system.
     
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