Bayernbiere Bought and Drunk (2020)

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  1. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Give those bottles another going over, I bet they're 12 ouncers.

    Not sure where you're living these days, but I can get Spaten for $14 to $15 a 12-pack around here -- $28 - $30 a case. You need to get somewhere lower rent! ;-)
     
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  2. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    Correct, 12 oz = 355 ml (both are on the label). I was trying to provide apples-to-apples with a German case.

    Central PA. Rent is low, but you can only go one place for a case of beer.
     
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  3. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    5. Zwickl from Brauerei Meister, from Pretzfeld, actually in the village of Unterzaunsbach, in Bayern. Google maps says in east of Forchheim in the Veldensteiner Wald. Brauerei Nikl, which I had heard of and had a beer from is also from Pretzfeld.
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    This was a weird beer. The aroma was dark malts, caramel, but almost none of that was in the flavor. It had a decent bitterness in the middle/front, but a boring bitterness, as if they simply used Magnum or Herkules hops, which are all bitter and virtually no flavors. It was like they used those hops as cost saving measures. And then there wasn't any bitterness in the back. Again, weird. It had a light amount of sweetness, but just a little caramel. The color and aroma didn't match the flavor of this beer. It's really hard to describe that flavor, which felt like a hard flavor, kind of like a whisky when it hits your mouth initially. Basically, I was very disappointed, thinking that a "real" Zwickl should have more going for it.[/QUOTE]


    Wow.
    I used to love Meister Vollbier, didn't know they made a Zwickl, must bee a new-ish beer they didn't make 7 years or so ago.
    Weird that it wasn't enjoyable for you....
    Hope they didn't cut cost in recent years on their Vollbier.
     
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  4. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Sorry, my mistake. I knee-jerked thinking this was gonna be one of those "damned Euro bottle" rants. :wink:
    Ah yes, the age-old Penn Beer Laws. Some day you guys are gonna vote that thing out and get into the 21st century, but I bet there's too much money going into powerful pockets. :wink:
     
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  5. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

    @boddhitree That schnitzel looks awesome. Reminds me of the Bahnhofsrestaurant in Giessen where they used to also do schnitzel as big as your head. The only vegetable you'll find there is ketchup.

    Odd that the Alpirsbacher helles didn't impress, their line-up is almost always very solid. And I'm surprised that the Flötzinger didn't show better, they have some distribution up into FFM through classical GAM/GFG channels. Thanks for the report, as @steveh said it's good to see some smaller breweries making it up into the Main Metropole!
     
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  6. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Well, their beers make it to the U.S., so that's probably akin to being Fernsehbier. :grin:
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you have 'alternative' retailers where you can purchase 12/15-packs? Lately when I have been purchasing beers in formats greater than a 6-pack I have been buying 12/15 packs at my local Wegman's supermarket. Two 'bigger' packs I have purchased in the last 1-2 months:
    • 12 pack of Bell's Two Hearted
    • 15 pack of Victory Classic Lager
    FWIW these packs are cheaper at my Wegman's supermarket than they are at my local Retail Beer Distributors.

    Cheers!
     
  8. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    They already did:
    You Can Now Buy Six-Packs and Growlers From Pennsylvania Beer Distributors - PHILA. CITY LIFE Magazine 1/17/2017
    Distributors being allowed to sell 12- and 18-packs happened a couple of years earlier.

    Most of the PABA's bitchin' these days seems to be over Pennsylvania's beer prices compared to other states.
     
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  9. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Can't we all bitch about that to some extent?
     
  10. gavinbrooksbank

    gavinbrooksbank Initiate (0) May 24, 2011 England

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    stockenfelser geisterbrau from nittenau, nice drop
     
  11. gavinbrooksbank

    gavinbrooksbank Initiate (0) May 24, 2011 England

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    as it says on the bottle "eine raritaet aus der guten alten zeit"
     
  12. Crusader

    Crusader Pooh-Bah (1,725) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden
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    I remember that beer being quite good when I ordered it through Biershop Bayern. At 13.5% plato and 4.9% abv it has a traditional OG to ABV relationship for a Bavarian lager beer, though the hopping seemed pretty normal and is most likely in line with most modern dark lager beers. Perhaps it better represents a late 1800s Bavarian schenkbier come to think of it, those had moved higher in original gravity by the late 1800s and were mildly hopped as was the tradition for those beers.
     
  13. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Mm nice pic, but we don’t even know if you drank the or just posed with for pretty pictures. Sorry, pics w/o a report on how they taste is just ****.
     
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  14. gavinbrooksbank

    gavinbrooksbank Initiate (0) May 24, 2011 England

    ha, fair point. Well, i'm not a massive one for beer descriptions but this one was what i'd call in the munich dunkel style, nutty, slightly roasted and a hint of sweetness, not much hop bitterness, drinks very well, not too thin like some dunkels can be. Overall........good! get it down your neck
     
  15. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    That’s a beautiful looking beer.
     
  16. Dodger75

    Dodger75 Aspirant (287) Feb 26, 2017 England

    I had that yesterday, fabulous stuff.
     
  17. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Over the weekend, I got my paws on some, 2 actually, beers from the Oberpfalz, the region around Nürnberg:
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    The first of these Highway to Hell, from Fuchsbeck, in Sulzbach-Rosenberg, which is halfway between Nürnberg and the Czech border.

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    Aroma: strong pils malt in the nose and light bitterness.
    Flavor: a light bitterness up front, middle and back, just light a Helles should be, but this bitterness is kind of a boring, as if they used a bittering hop only and almost no Noble hops. There's also a sweet Pils flavor but not too much. The website says Hallertauer Hersbrucker hops, but I think they could've gone with more flavorful ones in addition to this.
    Aftertaste: Pils and bitterness, but again, nothing flavorful in the bitterness.
    Mouthfeel: round, nice but not too exciting, almost light and inoffensive.
    Overall, good but kind of bland, especially after having the Bruckmüller above.
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    2nd of the day was Sperber Bräu Classic Lager. They're also from Sulzbach-Rosenberg.

    This pic of their lineup doesn't show it:
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    But they do have it in their lineup later in the page that lists all their beers.
    Here's what they say about the beer, translated by me:
    Mmmm, I guess they want to say women also will dig it. They also say on the bottle that the aroma is "flowery," has a full body and it tastes like Schwarzbrot, or black bread.
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    Aroma: sweet and bready, like dark bread indeed, but also pils malt lurking in the nose.
    Flavor: It has an interesting bitterness, Noble hops, delicious complex bitterness up front, but also on sides and again in the back. Yummy. The beer also has a complex xweetness, a big hint of caramel in back, noticeable, but lurking in the middle, too. It's really hinting into Märzen beer territory, but still enough complex bitterness to keep it interesting. The long I drink it, the more it feels like it's in the middle of, I'd actually say the sweet spot between a Helles/Pils/Märzen. It's absolutely delicious, almost WOW beer. Fantastic beer. I'll look out for this brewery for more of their offerings.
     
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  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Tony, it has been a while (too long) since I have seen you type those words. Good to see!:slight_smile:

    Prost!
     
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  19. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Just east of Nürnberg.
     
  20. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    In case you haven't seen my post in the main Beer Talk thread, here's my review of Pax Bräu's Jagd auf den Roten Oktober version of a Festbier. WOW.
     
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