Bayernbiere Bought and Drunk

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  1. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    I agree with MJ. It's a silly attempt to woo a "younger" crowd to drink the beer: the Red Bull/vodka types. Silly.

    You said it was like a Märzen… was it hoppy? A lot caramel flavors from Müchner malts? I've bought from Bierzwerg too, and I like their approach: supporting small brewers around Germany and import (mostly) craft beers from abroad like Belgium/Holland, GB & USA. Their prices for the German beers are quite reasonable, usually around 1€ to 1.50€ per bottle. Tell us your report on the other beers you drink from them. Happy drinking.
     
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    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Pax Bräu's summer beer of July is the Best Bitter. It's 4.1% and uses, besides Gerstenmalz (Barley malt, but isn't almost all malt from barley?), a nice mix of British, American and German hops: Golding, Challenger, Cascade, Tettnanger, Strisselspalt. Sounds delicious just from the hops, doesn't it?

    I also love the label, a pic of a (British-inspired?) lion with a crown but also wearing jeans and some kind of vest. This image reminds me yet again that the artist is comic artist in Germany.
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    Upon opening the 1L bottle, I get lots and lots of bubbles that keep coming up from bottom of the glass like a Kristalweizen does, even though the head collapses in a few minutes. The color is deep, dark golden with some amber mixed in. You can also see it's bottle conditioned as usual due to the ever so slight haze present.

    The aroma is strong, more like a Märzen, really, a bready, caramel presence that you'd not expect in a British Bitter.

    The initial flavor… yep, also quite Märzen-like. I'm getting lots of Münchner or Wienermalz flavors of caramel and toasty, bready sweetness. Ok, again, not like a British Bitter. If this were called a Märzen, I'd believe you whole hog, but if you stop there in the evaluation, you'd miss so much more this beer offers. The front and middle have some decent bitterness, not Noble hop-like, but more British flowery, grassy notes. One thing you don't find in this beer is Rauchmalz, and this may be one of the few from Pax that I can say this about. Good, too, for any smoke flavors would've distracted from the other amount of complex flavors competing for the tongue's attention. There's also some very slight hints of lemony flavor, mostly in the back, tart but not sour. What's interesting is none of the American or German OR British hops shine through, but it's just one hop flavor, and wonderful.

    Overall, it's not a classic British Bitter. No, it's something much much better. It's a melding of Franken and England through malts and hops. This beer somehow gives you the feeling you're drinking a British Bitter and a lovely Märzen simultaneously, not mixed but melded and bonded organically to make a completely new style. Maybe we can call it the March Bitter. Lovely, and WOW. I mean WOWOWOWOW. It doesn't overpower you with any one aspect, nor does it go over the top and scream for attention by being extreme in any way, but again, WOW, it's a wonderful super-super-süffig beer that has the heft of a winter German beer and the crisp summer refreshing drinkability. I love this beer, and it's now my 2nd favorite Pax beer, only after the Cissy IPA.

    THIS IS CRAFT BEER, a willingness to experiment and mix up styles to create a new taste no one else has ever made. WOW. At at 4.1%, very sessionable.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    More and more I am convinced that Andreas Seifert of Pax Brau is a very, very talented brewer. As a homebrewer I have formulated some of my own recipes but it is always a challenge to picture in my mind’s eye how different ingredients will ‘play’ together and how much of each to utilize. Recipe formulation seems to be a real skill of Andreas Seifert and he also has the ability to execute. That is a twofer!!

    Prost to Andreas Seifert!
     
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  4. danfue

    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany

    And another Bamberger tonight: the Braunbier from Klosterbräu. At 5.7 % ABV, this is relatively strong for a Dunkles. Roasty, somewhat sweetish, caramel-malt aromas, good composure. Not much hops, even the yeast is stronger in taste, but that's fine for this style. Thumbs up.

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  5. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    Nice beer, nice beer glass! Did you find it at the beer store near you? I may have to take a trip up to Wiesbaden.

    I had the Braunbier at the Klosterbräu pub and liked it. It reminded me of an Andechser Dopplebock with less alcohol. Tasted very much like wheat bread to me.
     
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  6. danfue

    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany


    Yes, they have a lot of glasses. When I paid I asked how much the Schlenkerla glass is and since we chatted a bit about beer before, she just said "oh, that's okay" and put it between the bottles. That's how cool they are.
     
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    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany

    From my latest order at Bierzwerg. A special brew from St. Georgen Bräu, the LEVI Buttenheimer Urstoff. Did you know that Levi Strauss was a Buttenheimer? I didn't. They started this in 2009, celebrating his 180th birthday.
    While I had found everything else I had yet tasted from this brewery very convincing, I didn't quite know, where this one is headed. It could be a Helles, but it's more malty and golden in color. It reminds me of a Märzen, but with 4.6 %, it's a bit too weak for this. It was good, but I just couldn't figure out where to put this.
    Mainly I just bought it, because I knew the brewery is spot on and I love the look of the bottle.

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  8. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Interesting beer. So I understood... a weak, thin cross between a Märzen and Helles, or a maltier, less hoppy Helles, or a less malty Märzen? Basically ws it worth the money and would you think of buying it again?
     
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  9. danfue

    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany


    It was worth the money, it was only €1.10. That's always worth trying a quality beer.
    It was more like a maltier and sweeter Helles, thus reminding of a Märzen. But compared to a true Märzen, it just lacked the depth, the alcohol, appearing even a bit watery. I wouldn't order it again, because I'm always on the hunt for new things. But if I came across this in a store (unlikely anyway), I might pack in a bottle or two.
     
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  10. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I dunno, it looks pretty good for a Helles, but a Wiesn Märzen probably falls into the same color range.

    I would never consider a Helles to be all that hoppy to begin with, so making that comparison is a little skewed. The major difference between a Helles and a Märzen is malt variety; a Helles almost always uses Pilsner malt or lightly kilned Munich malt. A Märzen mixes up the grain bill giving the beer more complexity.
     
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  11. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Got a beer from Brauerei Faust to report on Kräusen Naturtrüb.

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    The aroma has very strong Münchner with some Pils malt, some oranges, a little Noble hop bitter smell, and just a hint of smoke. Quite complex, eh?

    The flavor is equally complex. In the front I get a wee bit of bitterness, and some light citrus. In the middle, I get a tiny bit of smoke, not much, but just enough to wonder what the flavor is. Maybe it's not Rauchmalz, but the beer is too light to have roasted or black malt flavors. In the middle I get some bore bitterness, not too strong, but it's the prominent flavor there. In the end I get a little more lemon and some more grass-bitterness. The aftertaste has some Münchner malt's caramel sweetness, but not a lot.

    Overall, this is an unusual beer. It's like it's ⅓ caramel sweetness, especially in the back, lots of bitterness through all parts of the tongue, and some citrus for the hops. It tastes like they used some interesting hops as well as the normal Noble hops. I'd give it a 3.8 or 4.
     
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  12. danfue

    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany

    Faust Kräusen, very good. I had this a few weeks ago and it got me interested in that brewery. It's not too far, a trip there is planned.
     
    #572 danfue, Aug 2, 2013
  13. seanyfo

    seanyfo Pooh-Bah (1,718) Jan 2, 2006 Scotland
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    I had the Braubier at the Klosterbräu pub too but i remember them serving it too damn cold which completely killed the head! Everyone were holding their glasses in their hands to warm it up a bit!
     
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    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Check out my report on my brewery visit at Faust. Make a reservation by emailing directly from their website. Give your report, too, when you go!
     
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    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Hey, another day, another beer from Brauerei Faust: the Pils Feinherb. What's interesting is that in the BA listing, it's put in the Czech Pils category, which while drinking it seems absolutely right.
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    Aroma: mmm, lots and lots of Pils malt rises up to great you interlaced with the smell Tettnanger or Hallertauer. This aroma lingers much past the time the foam falls into the beer. Lovely.

    Appearance: It's deep straw-golden but not crystal clear. Unter the snow-white head, it's just a little cloudy, maybe due to not being filtered?

    Taste: The initial flavor in the front is bitter but also sweet Pils malt. The middle is lots of sweet, caramel Pils malts and some lemon flavors. The back and aftertaste have the same flavors with even tons more caramel Pils malts again and some lemon with bitterness, too. Wow… this is really a great Pils, maybe a Czech version, but great.

    Overall, this is a terrific beer. It is fully-bore Pils malts, lots of hop flavors with just enough bitterness to make it interesting, but not to much to be feel the bitterness bite. It's got some lemon flavors, too, so it's a wonderful beer, even one of the best Pils I've had. Love it. It reminds me of a Kneitinger's Pils, but with more hints of lemon.

    However, after getting near the end of the bottle where it's warmer, it's getting almost too sweet. mmmm, need to drink more bottles to get to the bottom of this.
     
    #575 boddhitree, Aug 3, 2013
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  16. danfue

    danfue Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2012 Germany

    There is a shopping center about 500 meters from my house. On the upper floor, there is a Bavarian restaurant which we haven't been to before because it is in the shopping center, right next to the parking lot. We just didn't think it would be nice. Well, last weekend we just gave it a try and it was actually nice. They have a nice terrace and you don't notice you're next to the parking lot. And the best thing was: they have Weihenstephaner on tap! Nobody here has Weihenstephaner on tap! I had them before, but only bottled. Well, they were both excellent as expected, even draught very well by the girl serving.

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    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have a beer bar near me that regularly gets Weihenstephaner on tap (Original, Pilsner and Hefeweizen). Whenever it is available I always get 1 (or 2 or 3). Fresh Weihenstephaner beer is a joy to be cherished!

    Prost!

    P.S. I have my fingers crossed that I will be able to find Weihenstephaner Oktoberfestbier on tap soon; tis the season!:slight_smile:
     
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    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I had my first Furst Wallerstein Classic (Pilsner) last night. I was looking forward to trying this beer since I am a big fan of the Zwickel that Furst Wallerstein makes. Below is my review:

    Appearance

    Light straw color with a nice fluffy white head.

    Aroma

    Aroma is dominated by very noticeable pilsner malt aroma; there is very little hop aroma there.

    Taste

    Substantial flavors of pilsner malt with just a bit of Noble Hop flavor. The malt plays center stage here.

    Mouthfeel

    A nice ‘chewiness’ from the pilsner malt. The finish is slightly sweet.

    Overall

    This beer is dominated by the pilsner malt aroma/flavor. There are definitely hops there to provide some balance to the pilsner malt but the hops are playing second fiddle in this beer. I enjoyed drinking this beer and I would enjoy drinking it again.

    Prost!
     
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  19. seanyfo

    seanyfo Pooh-Bah (1,718) Jan 2, 2006 Scotland
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    Also dann,

    I finally got round to trying the Kloster Scheyern Hell tonight and it did not disappoint.

    Appearance - Gold body with excellent clarity. Good creamy head retention/lacing.

    Aroma - With a little agitation, mild peppery note but minimal overall

    Taste - Malt dominant with an underlying vanilla note. Touch of hop bite in the lager clean finish.

    Mouthfeel - Medium carbonation yet delicate

    A simple helles with a delicate but tasty flavour profile which went down all too easy. More please!

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    seanyfo Pooh-Bah (1,718) Jan 2, 2006 Scotland
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    Tonight was the turn of the Kloster Dunkel :-




    Appearance - Mahogany body with excellent clarity. Creamy tan head giving good retention/lacing.

    Aroma - Light Munich malt breadiness with hints of caramel
    Taste - The sweetness of the caramel malts dominate with a hint of pepper and noble hoppiness in the semi dry, almont kellerbier like, clean finish.
    Mouthfeel - Medium carbonation/body.

    Overall, its tasty stuff but i definitely prefer dunkels with a more bread crusty flavour profile.

    Zum Wohl!
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