Beatification trade value

Not hardly, but Batch 3 is a 750ml and the only batch in a large bottle, making it the sexiest Beatification in my opinion.

 

What's wrong with going 1:1 with CBS? Wake me when Beatification can trade for a distributed shelf beer with a larger bottle count like King Henry. Hell, Rare was on shelves for 6 months to a year in places, and you can't land that with 3 Beatifications.

Yeah yeah I know Rare was a "one time" brew (and I think that's gullible, but that's another discussion). It doesn't have an unlimited shelf life, yet people hold on to it like its tastiness (and therefore trade value) is simply going to go up. We've reached peak hoarding.

With a case of King Henry you could trade for all of Belgium.

 

I don't think Beatification batch 3 is anywhere close to the rarity of Blabaer. Demand being equal, there's way more Beatification out there (all batches) than Blabaer (all batches).

Aside: if Beatification batch 3 is treated like a separate beer from batch 5, why are all vintages of Blabaer lumped in together?.

But I see you put up an ISO - did it get done? There's your answer.

 

So are you saying Beatification Batch 5 should trade for Batch 1,2,3 or 4? Good luck with that because it wont...

 

I don't think you understood my post.

 

Maybe i didnt, ive emptied a few bottles already tonight. I said up top i traded a Beatification B4 for a Blabaer, it was a good trade for both parties. From my experience newer Beatification wont trade for older Beat. Just as ive seen different vintages of Blabaer not trade for newer ones and vice versa. Vintage has alot to do with trade value

 

I had 16 bottles of King Henry at one point.....I do not own all of Belgium nor did I ask for ridiculous trades. I kept it fair (2 bottles KH for 1 Black Note, KH plus BCBS variants for some Bruery Reserve stuff, KH - CBS, even threw one in as an extra for shits'n'giggles!). I would not, however, go 1:1 KH for BeatB5...it'd have to be 2-3 bottles and I base this on what you're arguing against. It (beat) did sit on shelves for awhile and I saw examples of people walking away with 2 cases of it with no problem at all. I know I managed to score a little over a case of KH but that took a lot of searching, calling, driving, money, time, etc. whereas Beat sat at one location easily acquirable for quite awhile. Allow me to add that I think 1 KH (plus some locals?) for 1 BeatB3 is a fair trade...just my opinion.

 

No one that has a B3 would ever, ever trade it for a King Henry plus locals. They wouldn't even do it for two King Henry.

 

That's why I plan to hold on to a few of my leftover King Henry...In a few years it would work easy. King Henry will hold the value of Rare, if not a higher value, in the near future. I meant to include this fact in my original post but was too lazy.

 

I don't know. Part of the charm of Rare is the pricetag.

 

That's the point, King Henry sat around long enough for you to grab 16 bottles of it. That's about 3 trips to RR, about 3 hours each way for me... 18 hours of driving. Could you grab 18 bottles of KH in 18 hours of effort? Seems even.

LOL

Assuming it holds up for a few years, sure.

Anyway, I saw a post the other day that said that King Henry was easier to come by than people let on, and they were holding on to it for trade bait. The thread seems to be gone now, but it looks like that point was correct at least.

 

You are totally lost on how to value your beer.

You do realize that King Henry sat on shelves in many regions for months (I'd wager there are still places across the country where it and Rare are still chilling on shelves). It wasn't until the end of 2011 when it was announced as the best beer of 2011 that all of the sudden it's rarity and value exploded.

Bottle count for King Henry and Beatification B5 are fairly close, price is fairly close, reviews are fairly close. Beat is brewery only and King Henry was distributed. When it really get's down to it, the only real differentiation is which style you prefer.

To say that KH is worth 2 (or 3?!?!?!) Beatifications is absurd. I get you like your beer and you think it should be extremely valuable, but you need to accept that King Henry is not Rare, it did not cost $35-50 a bottle and it will never trade at that $4$ equivalent for anyone who's actually trying to make good trades.

The fact that you were able to hunt down over a case of KH speaks for itself, and while I understand the argument that you are trying to make, what you need to realize is that there are people in cities across the country who were able to do the exact same thing as you did and obtain many KH. You cannot say that of Beatification BECAUSE it is a brewery only release. Sure there are a limited number of people who live near Russian River, but the number is fairly small, most of the BAs on here that were stocking up live anywhere from 1-4 hours away from Russian River. That means they had 2-8 hours of driving for EACH allocation.

But all of that aside, you are completely off your rocker if you think anyone would trade a Beatification B3 for 1 King Henry. You do understand that B3 is 3 years old and was the only batch sold in 750ml bottles right? It was also a much smaller batch than B5. Also, King Henry is barely 6 months old, and regardless of how good it is now, no one knows how it will age. Aging a Barrel-Aged beer rarely helps it out.

 

How can you guarantee this?

 

I think that's an asymmetry of information. Most people talk like KH was hard to get, and it's in their trade interest not to contradict that view even if it's not true. Whereas everyone knows where Beatification was available and for how long, so it's harder to pretend it was a ghost.

Anyway, I just wanted to chime in on how Beatification's "trade value" and demands are way overstated compared to a bunch of other recent releases. Whether it's the argument of "distributed too thinly" or "never made again" or "fewer bottles," the argument shifts so that whatever beer in question is being discussed is automatically rarer than Beatification. I also muled bottles for people, shouldn't have done that, no one will return the favor with anything we're discussing. But the point is, it's not nearly as valuable as any of the other beers I mentioned.

 

I actually drain poured my last 5 bottles of Beatification's. They were obviously spoiled, tasted like a stout that spent 18 months in the barrels.

On topic: A batch 3 should go for a Blabaer, there just aren't many people with the Blabaer perusing the forums.

 

I actually traded 4 Beats for a Rare + KH, so I find this whole argument pretty damn amusing.

 

Oh. Never mind then.

 

Sorry, to answer the OP's question, yes it possibly could but a lot of those people possibly have Beat or access to it. But the 750 bottle makes it much more tempting IMO.

 

CBS has been my favorite beer so far this year, it would take something pretty damn special for me to let it go. I know CBS would never pull a Rare but that's about what it would take for me to let it go. These things are subjective, and instead of getting upset about not getting want you want, put yourself in the others shoes every once in a while and realize we all love our rare, had-to-get beers.

On that note, I've never had either beat or King Henry, so if any of you ba's that have multiples of each, I got a cbs for ya