Beatification trade value

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by black13, May 19, 2012.

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  1. MikeTen

    MikeTen Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2009 California

    Ah, gotcha. I reached out to someone and offered a 1:1 KH for Beat shortly after release but was shot down, and I see that similar offers have been refused lately, but you're right, maybe I'm not seeing the big picture. Since you and I have opposite experiences, apparently the truth lies in the middle.

    For the record, those are shitty trades you were offered (well except the 3:3, which is the same as 1:1 and could probably be talked down to 1:1 + locals:locals to make shipping cost-effective).

    From my POV I thought I was being kind of generous by muling for people and knew it would undercut my trade value, so I'm miffed to see people trying to lower it further. Part of the reason I avoid trading now is that I know people (not everyone, but they're out there, like antlerwrestler19) are sitting on bottles of beer thinking they'll just go up in value, when in reality they're probably just falling off, so they can trade them out past their peak. Man that sucks to see, and it makes me reluctant to participate in "helping the community" when that sense of reciprocity is dwindling.
     
  2. pschul4

    pschul4 Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Illinois

    This person has never tried to find it in Chicago (or anywhere else in the midwest for that matter).
     
  3. vivasbeer

    vivasbeer Zealot (519) Feb 3, 2012 Michigan
    Trader

    I had a Beat trade fall right into place......a 4 pack of KBS + 1 BB4D on my end, for 2 Beats. It was one of the easiest trades for me to date.
    Luckily we both knew what we wanted, and wasn't one of those....FT: 2x Beats ISO: your best offer Bullshit threads
     
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  4. aasher

    aasher Grand Pooh-Bah (4,557) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    It seems like everyone I know has almost a case of Beatification while no one I know has more than six King Henry's, and I'm in the Midwest!
     
  5. MikeTen

    MikeTen Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2009 California

    Doesn't that prove my point that Beatification was easier to trade for than King Henry?
     
  6. aasher

    aasher Grand Pooh-Bah (4,557) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    Indiana got around 50 cases of the variants and I never saw a single bottle on a shelf, and this is even knowing which stores got them.
     
  7. aasher

    aasher Grand Pooh-Bah (4,557) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    I really hope Black13 can pull this trade. Both people will be happy.
     
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  8. pschul4

    pschul4 Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Illinois

    You should keep that guy in your contacts list. From what I've found unless you've got a badass trading partner (like me :slight_smile: ) Trades where both people target a specific beer over "best offer" are getting more rare by the day.
     
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  9. Domeshot14

    Domeshot14 Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2011 California

    What does that even mean? Are you saying you don't know anyone, or that you could access 100's of cases of Beat if you wanted?
     
  10. black13

    black13 Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Oregon

    Or it proves that the people who have a case of Beatification like to share that information, while those that have a case of King Henry keep it quiet.

    Getting a case of Beatification Batch 5 would be easier than getting a case of King Henry because there is only one source for Beatification. All it required was knowing someone that could go to RR and get it for you, or having good trading partners. On the other hand, KH saw open distribution so it makes it a bit harder to collect a case of that stuff, but there are people that did it. Still, it doesn't mean one beer is worth more than the other as both cost about the same and had about the same number of bottles released.
     
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  11. aasher

    aasher Grand Pooh-Bah (4,557) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    It means that Batch 5 was relatively easy to get for people in the Midwest, because of the six bottle limit and extensive time of availability. King Henry was incredibly hard to find. It didn't even officially reach retail in a few states.
     
  12. Rinkor16

    Rinkor16 Zealot (523) Dec 12, 2011 California

    I trade a Beat 5 for a KH straight across. So I find this argument equally amusing.
     
  13. MikeTen

    MikeTen Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2009 California

    That's what I've been getting at. Six bottles of KH is a lot for a beer that's made to sound like it was a scramble to get even one. Like I said above, getting a case of Beatification is 12 hours of driving for me (maybe 8 for people who live a bit closer), and I'm having a hard time believing that the same time investment wouldn't yield the same amount of KH or the BCBS variants.

    Anyway, people are pointing out that Beatification is trading 1:1 with King Henry and 3:1 with Rare, so I was off.
     
  14. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2010 Washington
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    I think that's a tough one. I read somewhere that there were only 200 750ml bottles of Blabaer in 2011 with the rest (~580) going into 375ml bottles. There were only 200 of each the 750/375ml bottles sold to the public (allocations were basically 1x375 and 1x750 and it was considered "sold out" when the 750s were gone) and the rest were made available for onsite consumption.
     
  15. black13

    black13 Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Oregon

    Does anyone know how many bottles of Beatification Batch 3 were sold?
     
  16. Kaydogg

    Kaydogg Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2011 Pennsylvania

    sure that trade could happen.. Would I do it if I had a 11 blabaer ? No sir
     
  17. bpgpitt10

    bpgpitt10 Pundit (849) May 12, 2008 District of Columbia

    I think this is part of the problem people have (both sides) of "valuing" Goose Island stuff. In Chicago, it's an absolute shit show to find the stuff so people value it high. However, it gets distributed elsewhere that it tends to be a bit easier to get than it is here.

    The reality is that the value is probably somewhere in the middle. Another reality is that Beat5 also should be somewhere in the middle (lower than where it is but higher than many are claiming).
     
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  18. xpimptastikx

    xpimptastikx Initiate (0) Oct 8, 2008 Texas

    Enough that it saw distribution and sat on the shelves for a year. My first couple of bottles were pretty easy to get a hold of, but now anyone with a batch 3 is holding onto it like it's the key to Wales. Sure it's 3 years old, but Blabaer is a bitch to purchase, much less trade for. I really only see this working in an international trade, and you'd probably up your chances if you wait till the next batch.
     
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  19. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    It will definitely help to wait for the next batch of Blabaer, but Batch 3 was only easy to find on shelves in RR's distro footprint, and it was three years ago. It's not like it was terribly easy to get in Chicago, for example...
     
  20. xpimptastikx

    xpimptastikx Initiate (0) Oct 8, 2008 Texas

    I never said it was. I'm not sure what Chicago has to do with Beatification b3 or Blabaer either. I'm making a reference to what the OP asked. Beatification b3 stayed on shelves in RR distro areas, but Blabaer has never been distributed. It's only ever been sold at one location Denmark. Granted, the older batches (Blabaer b1-b4) didn't sell out in a day, the current ones do, even with small bottle limits. Blabaer has always been a bitch to trade for. I traded a Crianza Helena for a Blabaer on 2 separate occasions. When I traded a Crianza for Beatification I got a b2 and b3. These trades happened about a year ago, but happened within 3 months of each other FWIW.
     
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