Beer Appellations?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Sneers, Mar 6, 2015.

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  1. Sneers

    Sneers Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Does anyone know of any (present or past) appellations given to beers? That is, does anyone know of any naming restrictions based on sourcing, location of brewery, methods, presence of certain flavors, etc. akin to those in place for some wines and cheeses.

    Broadly speaking, I suppose the label "beer" is one such instance in Germany under the Reinheitsgebot, but I'm more interested in narrower designations. Like, for example, is there some law in Belgium that designates that a beer can only be called "gueuze" if it's a mix of X-year-old lambic and Y-year-old lambic that is then bottle-conditioned?
     
  2. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,294) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Well, not sure if this is what you're looking for, but, since Anchor has a copyright on the word, no other brewery can make a "Steam" beer. They must brew a 'California Common".
     
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  3. Sneers

    Sneers Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Yeah, not quite. I know there are plenty of trademarks/copyrights, but I'm looking for something like if the state of California said you can only call your beer a "steam beer" if it is fermented with open containers with lager yeast above some temperature.
     
  4. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,351) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

  5. RochefortChris

    RochefortChris Grand Pooh-Bah (3,209) Oct 2, 2012 North Carolina
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    Trappist versus abbey beer. Dusseldorf Altbier (I think)
     
  6. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,133) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    The US TTB has a number of restrictions on using beer styles ("types" in their jargon) based on geographic origins.

     
  7. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,689) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    The best newly acknowledged appellation of American beer could well be Gibbs 100 GPA (Greensboro Pale Ale) Blind Man's Holiday. I had a GPA (Greensboro Pale Ale) this afternoon at the brewery in a nice British-like mug and loved it! Looking very unfiltered and inviting, I drank this one down and know this is what fresh beer really should be. Just like the very best local English brews I've had on my travels through the years. Great job!
     
  8. Aye

    Aye Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 England

    Newcastle Brown Ale
     
  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,623) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I am not aware of any for Altbier.
     
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  10. Malt_Man

    Malt_Man Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2014 England

    Kolsch is the only one I am aware of, but even that is only enforceable inside Germany; it is not an EU-wide enforceable designation like Champagne, Feta cheese, Melton Mowbray pork pie. Fair dues to Thornbridge for calling theirs a 'Cologne-style ale' and not a kolsch.
     
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  11. RochefortChris

    RochefortChris Grand Pooh-Bah (3,209) Oct 2, 2012 North Carolina
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    Maybe you can't call it a Dusseldorf Altbier unless it's actually from Dusseldorf. I've heard something similar to that.
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,363) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    For the folks of the Czech Republic the term “Pilsner” can only be used for beers brewed in the city of Pilsen; so only Pilsner Urquell can be labeled as being a Pilsner beer. In the rest of the Czech Republic a Pilsner is called a Svetly Lezak which translates to Pale Lager.

    Cheers!
     
  13. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,351) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    If you check out the Wikipedia entry (see "Outside Germany"), it states that Kölsch is a "protected geographical indication" throughout the EU. American brewers don't seem to have any problem ignoring this, though.
     
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  14. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Grand Pooh-Bah (5,470) Jan 31, 2005 California
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    @jesskidden ^^^ is always a wealth of information. Homeboy is just a keypad click away from imparting relevance to every topic on BA. And it's much appreciated.
     
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  15. Malt_Man

    Malt_Man Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2014 England

    As a thirty-something white graduate professional, I love to be proved wrong :angry:. When you click to the EC reference, the only other EU protected appellation for beer is Ries weizenbier, which I must admit, I have never heard of, despite being a big weissebier fan.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,363) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The United States is not part of the EU.:slight_smile:

    Cheers!
     
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  17. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,065) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Nor can we seem to make a decent Koelsch. :wink:
     
  18. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,351) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    But we (Americans) seem to "respect" appellations of the wine world...

    PS - I double-checked my map to confirm you were correct before responding.
     
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  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,363) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am an American and I make a Kolsch that is more than decent.:slight_smile:
     
  20. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,065) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    I know. I gave you recipe tips. :wink:
     
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