Beer is Expensive

Well, duh!

It's a 10% ABV Imperial Stout with vanilla beans and cherry puree. Vanilla beans (not vanilla extract, which isn't cheap either) are very expensive now and cherries aren't cheap either. It's not a hazy 6-7% ABV IPA, that tastes just like any other hazy. Once again...apples-to-oranges.

 

That seems to be a question about whether someone wants to pay that much for a lager in general. If they are, I doubt they're very worried about if it's 5% or 8%. At least I wouldn't be.

 

That wasn't my point! Did you read my post:

"Maybe in today's economy when groceries, gas, etc. prices are so high folks might stop paying so much for four-packs of beer?"

Good for you that you can fill up your car with gas, buy groceries to feed your family, get your home's tank filled up with heating oil and not worry about paying 26 bucks for four cans of beer.

 

And I think the point of @WCKDVBZ s post was that that price isn't representative of a rise in prices. That's less than 50cents per Oz for a high abv barrel aged stout with expensive flavoring additives. Beers like that have cost that much and more for over a decade. Prairie has been selling beers like that for almost twice that much for as long as I've been aware of them. So citing it as an example of some increase in beer prices doesn't really hold water

 

Cry me a river!

That wasn't your point, but yet you copy and paste the same thing. So, yeah, it is your point!


Sounds like you're angry, because you can't afford certain things. And it bothers you that others can. That's not my fault/problem. Griping over beer prices in every single thread is not a good look.

 

Guys, let’s just remember we’re on a beer forum here.

I know we all are very passionate about our hobby (and the pricing thereof), but perhaps it’s time to have a few beers and relax!!

 

I would noT buy the lager for $8 regardless of what the ABV was because I like other styles better. "Value" is unrelated to ABV unless your goal is to get buzzed.

 

That's just an incredibly rude and disrespectful comment, you should be ashamed of yourself, grow up!

 

Value is very much related to ABV, independent of one's affinity for a buzz. It comes down to rates of consumption. Most people consume low abv beers in higher quantities than high abv beers over time, because high abv beers are richer and heavier, not to mention buzz inducing -- desirable or not. If you're like me and enjoy pilsners and imperial stouts equally, and they're the same price per case, the stout is a better value since it will give me many more evenings of enjoyment.

 

Well clearly, everyone has their own definition of "value" and many here apparently assume that their own personal drinking habits are representative of the majority, and deviations from that are "wrong". Your example may be representative of your drinking habits, i.e., dinking more low ABV beers in one sitting than high ABV beers of the same cost per ounce, but it is not representative of my habits nor of my friends. My definition of value is satisfaction per dollar. ABV does not influence my satisfaction with a beer. Apparently, it does for you and others in this thread. It doesn't mean my personal definition is right or wrong despite attempts by some here to say my definition of value is wrong because I don't consider how much alcohol I am getting per dollar.

 

Your earlier statement, "Value is unrelated to ABV unless your goal is to get buzzed", is false. ABV affects consumption rate, which is part of the value equation. No one spends an entire evening savoring each sip of a single bottle of light lager as it warms, but that's exactly how most people enjoy an imperial stout.

 

We will have to agree to disagree. IMO your statement about satisfaction being related to duration of drinking a single bottle and that duration of drinking is directly related to ABV is another generalization that may apply to you and to some others but not to all. I personally can derive equal satisfaction from a lower ABV beer that I consume in 15 minutes, or from an equally priced stout of higher ABV that takes me an hour. If the cost is the same and the satisfaction level is the same, then the value of both beers is the same to me. Maybe not to you because clearly your values are different. "Satisfaction" and "value" are both totally subjective.

 

If anyone is concerned about their $/Oz of ethanol they may want to leave the beer aisle and head over to that brown water (well, if you really wanna max it look at that clear fire water section)

 

Maybe they prefer beer anyhow, I can kind of understand it. Combining interests...say you try to achieve the buzz I distanced me from, because buzz didn't distance itself from me. How to achieve it with the drink of choice, beer? Buzz+good beer, what is the cost?

But in principle you could take a mouthful of vodka and then sip on a good NA beer, I guess...