Beer pricing

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Hopsonhops, Nov 21, 2017.

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  1. Hopsonhops

    Hopsonhops Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2017 New York

    Should retailers be able to charge what ever they want for specialty beer? When i say specialty i mean limited releases such as ba ten fidy, kbs, bourbon county etc.. this being that most distributors force so much beer down their throats to get all these specialty items which forces them to sell the everyday beer at cost!!!
     
  2. TheGent

    TheGent Grand Pooh-Bah (4,235) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    I am not in the business of selling beer, so I have to ask, are retailers not able to charge what they want for the beer they sell?

    Absent this, I would say of course, a retailer should be able to charge whatever they want. There are enough market dynamics to cause the retailer to adjust the price if it is priced incorrectly.
     
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  3. Hoppedelic

    Hoppedelic Savant (1,065) Dec 6, 2010 California
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    Yes, they should charge the highest amount they think people will pay. Maximize profits, that's what they're there for.
     
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  4. Hopsonhops

    Hopsonhops Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2017 New York

    I agree but when your customers come in and say your overpriced because its cheaper to get at the brewery what do you do?
     
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  5. Hopsonhops

    Hopsonhops Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2017 New York

    I sell dales pale ale at an everyday price at 9.99 per 6 pack but when i charge 17.99 for a can of ba ten fidy im a crook :angry: like do you know how much the rent is out here in nyc
     
  6. TheGent

    TheGent Grand Pooh-Bah (4,235) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    I'd ask what are they comparing that to? I assume someone coming into your store seeking a stovepipe can of BA Ten Fidy knows they'll be paying a lot. But if they can get the beer elsewhere in the city for say, $14.99, then your price seems high, and since the consumer doesn't care how much your rent is they'll buy the beer elsewhere. Unless there's an opportunity cost that causes them to pay more.
     
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  7. TheGent

    TheGent Grand Pooh-Bah (4,235) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    Open a brewery instead of a craft beer store?
     
  8. Hopsonhops

    Hopsonhops Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2017 New York

    Nah man the goal is to start my own distrubution and sell the good stuff instead of one brand... maybe in 10 years start up in long island
     
  9. Hopsonhops

    Hopsonhops Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2017 New York

    Plus the cheapest price in the city is 16.99 and thats coming from a larger beer store in a much rent reduce area
     
  10. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    I don't know any craft beer place whose margin depends on those very uncommon specialty items. My local store says it adds a little-a very little.
     
  11. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    A quick glance at Beermenus puts you in range of other stores in Manhattan, higher than some but not the highest price either.

    That seems fair to me. Maybe just let your customers know that stores like yours can't compete with the chains in some areas, but you're better than them in others.
     
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  12. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    So customers are complaining about a beer priced $1 more than the cheapest it is found in the city?
     
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  13. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    I would tell them to go to the brewery then. You are charging a premium because people are buying it at that price. And if the brewery is in another state I don't see many people investing the time, cash, etc. to get the beer. Supply and demand....
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    If the prices are higher than you are willing to pay then simply choose to not buy the beer. There are a number of local breweries near me that will charge up to 25 bucks for a 4-pack. The choice is pretty simple for me - I buy other beer that is priced more reasonably.

    Cheers!
     
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  15. TheGent

    TheGent Grand Pooh-Bah (4,235) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    If you were selling BA Ten Fidy for the second lowest price in all of NYC, and only $1 more than the lowest, I would not call you a crook. Also, even if you were twice the cost, I still wouldn't call you a crook, because as I said in my first post, you can charge whatever you want. I just wouldn't buy it from you.

    Question: Did you sell out of your BA Ten Fidy and how much did you get?
     
  16. Hopsonhops

    Hopsonhops Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2017 New York

    All valid points.. what sucks most is that these are customers ive never seen come in my shop looking for specialty items at whole foods pricing.. if you dont want to pay 6.99 for a can of grimm then your more than welcome to buy a 6 pack of harpoon for 7.99 here or a sixer of sierra nevada, lagunitas, brooklyn, stone for 9.99
     
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  17. Hopsonhops

    Hopsonhops Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2017 New York

    I was able to get 4 cases this past weekend and they were 6 cans left when i departed today...
     
  18. TheGent

    TheGent Grand Pooh-Bah (4,235) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    So what's the problem?
     
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  19. Hopsonhops

    Hopsonhops Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2017 New York

    The problem is that beer snobs are ruining the game.. theres too much beer out here in nyc and everyone wants to try the newest ipa or barrel aged stouts or sours but complain about the pricing as if i dont have enough to deal with.. i love the tourist who come in and buy a sixer of corona or a four pack of carlsberg and actually share a smile.. those are the people who make me love what i do
     
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  20. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    I say let the market determine but again, my local store, not wanting to alienate his base, doesn't overprice on low volume one offs. The whole debate on how to distribute these raged for pages at a time on these boards a few years ago and has calmed--likely due to just more stuff out there.

    An old grocer who eventually became a billionaire that I grew up near had a motto--
    "I would rather make 5 hot pennies than one slow nickel."

    Your market seems a bit tougher than NC so do what feels right and keeps folks coming back.

    Good luck.
     
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