Beer variants you wish existed

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by mambossa, Aug 1, 2020.

  1. mambossa

    mambossa Aspirant (236) Jun 30, 2015 Ohio

    I’ve been on a Golden Monkey kick lately. It’s really been hitting the spot. I wish there was a dark version, they could call it something like Midnight Monkey. Either like a Belgian dark ale or a Belgian style stout. Both sound pretty nice to me.

    I generally dream of dark versions of existing beers. Dark Pilsner Urquell. Dark St. Bernardus Wit.

    I also wish I could try every base imperial stout as a Mexican hot chocolate variant. Cause I’m a sucker for those.

    Any variants of existing beers that you wish were real? Tell us your tweaks, flavorings, barrel choices, etc.

    Cheers!
     
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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,609) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you mean like a Czech Dark Lager?

    Let's discuss some Tmavý Ležák (Czech Dark Lagers) beers I drank last year during my two week vacation to the Czech Republic:

    Below is a photo of Bernard Tmavý Ležák:

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    And here is a photo of U Fleků Tmavý Ležák:

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    Triple Crossing in Richmond, VA brews a tasty Tmavý Ležák:

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    And saving the best for last, my homebrewed Tmavý Ležák:

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    Cheers to Tmavý Ležák beers!
     
  3. slander

    slander Poo-Bah (2,215) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    I wish there was a peaty ass Porter, like what I think I recall Grant's Perfect Porter being like in the 90's.
     
  4. mambossa

    mambossa Aspirant (236) Jun 30, 2015 Ohio

    I do know dark Czech lagers exist, I just want PU to make one :slight_smile:
     
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  5. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (7,361) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    You want a dark version of a white beer? That's how CDAs came to be.
     
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  6. mambossa

    mambossa Aspirant (236) Jun 30, 2015 Ohio

    Now I’m wondering why more breweries haven’t use a touch of peat-smoked malt in beers. I love a rugged peaty dram. I guess a lot of general beer consumers just don’t like the smoke!
     
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  7. mambossa

    mambossa Aspirant (236) Jun 30, 2015 Ohio

    Sure. But I want more dark witbiers, dark saisons, bretted stouts, as variants of my favorites from the light style. I want to hear what variants everyone can dream up in reference to beers they like, or alternatively think they can improve upon with their idea!
     
  8. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,769) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Just a couple years ago I really thought that smoked porters would become enough of a niche thing to be reliable shelf beers. Captain Lawrence, Forgotten Boardwalk, Spellbound...Then it ended. Oh well, at least they tried.
     
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  9. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,769) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    FWIW, I would like smoked, black, wild grisettes please.
     
  10. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (7,361) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    My point was more "how can something be both white and dark?".


    To answer your original question, a Trpel with some smoked malts might intrigue me, as long as it didn't fuck up the color.
     
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  11. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (7,361) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Try some Scotch ales. They're supposed to be peaty.
     
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  12. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (4,059) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Perhaps this belongs in the controversial opinions thread, but I'm always after coffee stout variants. Add different coffee and I'll spend money. Just know if you toss any other additive in there, you lose my money.

    Specifically, Founder's Imperial Stout and Bell's Expedition Stout come to mind as stand-out, quality base stouts. I'd love to try a coffee variant of both. Just keep the flavor additions limited there.
     
  13. Insomniac

    Insomniac Initiate (125) Nov 5, 2019 Canada

    If this exists, I’ve never seen one.

    Masala Chai Imperial Stout.
     
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  14. Giantspace

    Giantspace Champion (813) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Spicy lemon grass ginger saison

    enjoy
     
  15. dcotom

    dcotom Poo-Bah (2,529) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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  16. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (7,361) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I'd swear a brewery up did thst, but the brewery so thought put it out didn't have it listed. And, they're closed. I'll dig deeper when I'm on a machine.
     
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  17. patto1ro

    patto1ro Zealot (564) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands

    PU has made Dark Lagers.
     
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  18. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Poo-Bah (3,009) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    It's not uncommon for European breweries to use Scotch instead of Bourbon barrels for barrel aging Stouts and Porters and some of those can be quite peaty. I've really enjoyed most of those that I've had so far.
     
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  19. mambossa

    mambossa Aspirant (236) Jun 30, 2015 Ohio

    Ones packaged and exported to the states?
     
  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,609) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The more the merrier!

    Na Zdravi
     
  21. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Meyvn (1,424) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    We have a local that brews a lemongrass peppercorn wit and it is a nice refresher for sure.
     
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  22. milkshakebeersucks

    milkshakebeersucks Aspirant (260) Feb 10, 2020 Maryland

    Anyone using quinoa as an ingredient? (or variant)
     
  23. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,609) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    There is a ‘relationship’ between the Pilsner Urquell (Plzeňský Prazdroj) and Velkopopovický Kozel (Pivovar Velké Popovice) breweries in that they are both owned by Asahi Breweries Co.

    I am personally unaware of dark beer branded as Pilsner Urquell but there is a Czech Dark Lager produced by Velkopopovický Kozel:

    “Velkopopovický Kozel Černý

    Part of the Pilsner Urquell group of breweries, Kozel’s food-friendly dark lager is probably the most widely available tmavé pivo around the world.”

    https://vinepair.com/articles/czech-beer-dark-lager/

    While at the U Buldoka (Bulldog) pub I enjoyed a ½ liter glass of “Velkopopovický Kozel Černý:

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    I also had a blend of “Velkopopovický Kozel Černý and Pilsner Urquell:

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    Maybe the beer above, since it does include Pilsner Urquell, can 'count' as a Pilsner Urquell Dark?

    Cheers!
     
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  24. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Initiate (161) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    It would be cool if someone would make an IPA, except bitter and relatively clear.
     
  25. tobelerone

    tobelerone Poo-Bah (2,800) Dec 1, 2010 New Jersey
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    there have been numerous chai stouts. Great divide does chai yeti. Stone has a chai imperial stout variant.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/search/?q=Chai+stout
     
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  26. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (2,429) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    BBA IPAs. Years ago Foothills experimented with them on tap at the brew house, as a fan of beer and whiskey the bourbon was very prevalent. Damn near opaque and it was hot and delicious, anything worth doing is worth overdoing. I thought it phenomenal, but if you don't like whiskey you wouldn’t like it. I think they’re core beers are not worth the drive although they’re good beers, I’d drive for the BBA IPAs.
     
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  27. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Meyvn (1,424) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Just use more rye please. All styles. More rye
     
  28. BalancingBrooms

    BalancingBrooms Meyvn (1,288) Aug 22, 2013 Illinois
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    Cherry BBQ or The Sixth Glass from Boulevard
     
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  29. Insomniac

    Insomniac Initiate (125) Nov 5, 2019 Canada

    Have never seen either in my market, but thanks for the tip.
     
  30. BruChef

    BruChef Aspirant (218) Nov 8, 2009 New York

    Would like to see more of the original versions in general but a Dark Grodziskie and dark lichtenhainer would be cool. Also a lighter or “white” Rodenbach. And then add yellow cherries to make the Alexander version.
     
  31. dcotom

    dcotom Poo-Bah (2,529) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    Tallgrass did a ginger peach saison a while back. (That brewery is now closed, and that beer is listed under "Archived.") It was pretty damn good, as I recall.
     
  32. MikeWard

    MikeWard Poo-Bah (2,017) Sep 14, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Not quite what you 're asking, but Mantra Artisan in Tennessee puts out a milk stout called Japa which is very chai-ish.
     
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  33. readyski

    readyski Aspirant (274) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    Could use some more love and hope in my beers :wink: Seriously love the red wine barrel stouts.
     
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  34. woemad

    woemad Poo-Bah (3,577) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    I'm waiting for the variant of beer that shows up on my doorstep unbidden, preferably with a pizza.

    Oh, and US-made doppelbocks.
     
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  35. sjrider

    sjrider Meyvn (1,047) Mar 4, 2016 California
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    OK - Just gonna reel shit back in here. Do ya seriously think that there are more made up styles that deserve their own category?? Wake up call - it's all been done, nothing is new - add some weird f..ing shit to an already existing style doesn't make a new style ,it just bastardizes an already recognized style. I'm getting a little or a lot tired of this nonsense. There you have it -agree or not. Cheers.:wink::sunglasses:
     
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  36. zid

    zid Meyvn (1,192) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Was that blend an option on the menu? If not, what inspired you to order it?
     
  37. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Meyvn (1,471) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    It was a better idea than Brut IPA.
     
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  38. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,609) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yes.

    Cheers!
     
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  39. patto1ro

    patto1ro Zealot (564) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands

  40. jonphisher

    jonphisher Aspirant (286) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    RIP Ruthless Rye, though didn’t it make a variety pack comeback. Yards used to brew a rye ipa called rye. It was so good, doubt it ever makes a comeback though.