Beer & Your Health

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  1. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    You do realize there isn't a gambling site in existence that would provide that info if it wasn't mandated by law?
     
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  2. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    I don't care about gambling , but know they both cause the same kinda damage
     
  3. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Yeah, I’ve gotten a similar vibe when I’ve raised concerns. We can advocate the consumption of beer and support those members of our community for whom beer has become a problem. Both can happen at the same time. Hell Budweiser can say “please drink responsibly.”
     
  4. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I've missed seeing your posts here and wondered what was going on. I hope you ace your upcoming tests.
     
  5. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    My point was that until there is a law that alcohol sites need to have disclaimers about treatment, like gambling sites are FORCED to do, there is every incentive for all of the alcohol sites NOT to do it, and they won't.
     
  6. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Luckily for me my liver wasn't as bad as it could have been (my heart was my main problem of a few major ones), but the cutting out of stuff I can definitely relate to. My Dr. turned me into an almost vegan, daily fruit eater, no cane sugar, all whole grain, 1700 mg. a day sodium, daily exercise routine, one beer a month person, and I can definitely relate to the change that is now happening in your body. Your gut microbiome is gonna take some getting used to your new way of life, and likely your toilet routine will be affected for some time. Don't be surprised if you react to cutting out the things besides for beer you enjoy to consume as though they also were addictive drugs, as your gut microbiome and brain pleasure centers actually were kind of addicted to you providing that other "junk", too, and they react in ways like withdrawal.. Don;'t be surprised to find your way of thinking to change as well, it all is connected to what we feed outselves.

    Hopefully your tests will reveal time to moderate your behavior so that you won't be doomed to a life as a vegan one beer a month guy like I am due to bad choices for most of my life. Wishing you the best and hope you keep us in the loop about what's going on. Hippie healing vibes sent your way, man.
     
  7. ZAP

    ZAP Grand Pooh-Bah (4,048) Dec 1, 2001 Minnesota
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    Are they drinking the fifth while working construction? I suppose if their tolerance is high they could do good work maybe but might be dangerous.
     
  8. ZAP

    ZAP Grand Pooh-Bah (4,048) Dec 1, 2001 Minnesota
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    Yeah there is so much to consider...everyone is different....diet is a huge part of it and booze falls into that in some ways.....personally as I've gotten older I've cut carbs down to under 30 a day for a lot of the year and try to eat mainly lean meats like chicken, turkey, even sirloin steaks aren't too bad... (I go off for maybe a combined total of two months and do enjoy myself when I do)...still it's done wonders for my blood work which had been bordering on the high end of normal for cholesterol...Now down to perfectly average... It's not hard to do but again it's not for everyone...it means for me a couple Miller Lites after work and a whiskey diet 7up.....weekends I drink more whiskey than I should,....I'm sure my alcohol intake is lower than before but not drastically lower I don't think....and I still splurge on craft beers for that combined 2 months or so per year (which I am tonight)...I'm also quite active playing tennis, hockey, running....errr shuffling......biking and lifting....that may or may not help as well....as I've been told you can't out exercise bad eating/drinking habits..
     
  9. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    I had chest pains on and off for 2 days a few months and I got it checked out and they found nothing wrong. It was either due to stress, anxiety, or high blood pressure. Still was enough to put a scare into me. When you get chest pains you immediately think the worst especially if you drink alcohol and arent in great psychical shape.
     
  10. not2quick

    not2quick Grand Pooh-Bah (3,600) Dec 1, 2015 Missouri
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    Sorry to hear this Harley. Just stay positive. Most likely this will be something you will be able to overcome with some lifestyle modifications. You may go through several months with strict restrictions to your diet, but most likely you'll be able to enjoy alcohol regularly again with moderation.

    Most of the time genetics are the deciding factor. Personally I have always been a husky kid growing up. Just a little overweight, but i was active. I started drinking on some weekends once I hit 17 or so. Increased a bit once in college, your typical binge drinking. My father had a heart attack when he was 40 that almost killed him.

    I majored in health management and once I started taking classes, I started to take in information that made me think twice. No one thinks about cholesterol and blood pressure at 21, but then we discussed how you are at a severe risk of heart disease if your mom/dad brother/sister has heart disease.

    So I scheduled a doctor's appointment and had blood work. Fatty liver enzymes, high cholesterol and high blood pressure. I made some food changes and increased my exercise. After the initial break from alcohol to rule out any liver problems, I resumed by drinking and didn't lay off any.

    Once I hit 30 I knocked my drinking back and have been able to maintain a healthy moderation. Of course I'll have my moments, but we're human.

    Good luck!
     
  11. shadyside

    shadyside Maven (1,270) Feb 27, 2011 Georgia

    My prescription for a healthy lifestyle (and I'll be 72 in August): develop a strong relationship with God, eat healthy, but you can backslide once and awhile, exercise regularly and drink in moderation. I do 6-10 drinks a week. I have never had any major medical issues, but I do have good family genes. Moderation is the key, except for your relationship with God. That is where it all begins.
     
  12. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    It's certainly interesting the number of nicotine delivery systems today that have helped people quit smoking. It will be interesting to see more studies on how nicotine in isolation affects the body over time. Moreover, it will also be interesting to see how the specific vehicles delivering it affect the body (nicotine pouches, vaping, gum, lozenges...etc.).

    On the surface these all certainly appear to be world's better for you than tobacco, since I've also read nicotine itself (while addictive) is not a carcinogen.

    When people look at these "anomalies" it's important to look at the entire depth and breadth of one's life. As you mentioned, everyone's body works differently...genetics is huge.

    But what is the rest of their lifestyle like? How's your sleep? What do you eat throughout the day? Are you obese? Stress level? How much do you exercise? Are you consuming other drugs like tobacco? Any others?

    If you're sleeping great, working out six days a week, eat mostly healthy food, are at a healthy weight, don't do drugs, and have zero stress....that six pack a day you're drinking may not really matter all that much.

    When people wonder how some of these rock stars can drink and do drugs heavily all their lives and live into their old age, I've always theorized it's because of their mindset. Doing what they love all their life, not worrying about moderation, partying, eating, drinking, and sleeping around all they want. Almost as if they've been on vacation their entire life.
     
  13. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    So then I guess atheists/agnostics are doomed to poor health. Bummer.
     
  14. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Grand Pooh-Bah (3,740) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    Although I know your question was both rhetorical and sarcastic, I’ll answer it. As an agnostic/atheist, I was raised in a religion based on guilt, and I’d say feeling that way leads to unnecessary stress. But I’d agree exercise, eating healthy foods, and having a positive mindset can offset the average drinking habits.
     
  15. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Yeah, I definitely don’t want this thread to turn religious (it’s not Bible Advocate after all) but I’d just say, if having a strong relationship with your god(s) is important to you then maybe/probably it can/does have positive health benefits. But if a deity/deities simply doesn’t fit into your worldview, or if you have (totally reasonable, justifiable) issues with the whole organized religion thing, then maybe it’s a non-factor or could even have negative effects. I just don’t see this as being a universally important factor to maintaining good physical, emotional, and mental health. Someone can try to prove me wrong if they want to.
     
  16. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Despite how much fun it is to hang out outside and drink beer, I definitely feel it more the next day in the summer. Remember to hydrate!
     
  17. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    The rock stars that live the rock star lifestyle into late age are also working their asses off on tour. It took a combination of cancer and diabetes to bring Lemmy down at 70 (despite decades of chain smoking, amphetamine and alcohol abuse), and Keith Richards and Willie Nelson are still out there playing (although they've all had very different vices). Performing regularly is a great workout, and the drive necessary to do that shows that they have a will to live.
     
  18. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    I was hospitalized for 3 months with severe acute pancreatitis due to my excessive drinking. I mean, I drank a LOT! Most of the drinking was for fun, but the excess was self medication.
    I mostly drank great beer, and vodka shots outta da freezer even at 4am when I got up to go pee.
    I always had a maintaining buzz, but I was an Executive Chef in a fast paced high stress hot environment, in an Irish Pub nonetheless. Lots of heavy drinking employees.
    I was a very functional alcoholic. I rarely got "sloppy drunk", but almost always had a buzz going on.
    After one month at home on a feeding tube after coming home from the hospital, I stopped drinking for good.
    Now, I only drink for Evil.
    Sorry, I had to go there.
    I didn't experience any DT's in the hospital, probably because they were shooting me up with Dilaudid.
    I did however, stop drinking for 2 years, with the occasional near beer, but the best thing available at that time was Clausthauer, the NA Harp or whatever. It wasn't good.
    So, Eventually I started adding in a real beer for "special occasions."
    That morphed into me getting back into home brewing, and now I have 6 beer taps on my new Keezer. Whoops.
    Hey, life is too short to not enjoy the daily beer, or 3.
    I enjoy beer way too much to do without it. It's always been my favorite beverage.
    I don't care if I go earlier than if I don't drink at all. I'm trying to maintain some sense of sanity and enjoying myself while the going is good. My body is in constant agony 24/7, so beer gives me a moment of Zen.
    I suffer from a non curable non treatable Neurological disorder called Isaac's Syndrome.
    It's complicated, but that is what I was self medicating myself for when I was drinking the heaviest. Booze was the only medicine that gave me relief, besides heavy doses of opioids, which they are now trying to wean me off of now that my doctor retired.
    Nobody else will prescribe them for me. Sux, because they really do help, a lot!
    I have a medical MJ green card, but that only does so much.
    Helps with sleep, depression and appetite, but that's about it
    So, nowadays I just take it easy and only have a few beers a day, most times.
    My blood test results are within reason, nothing too alarming as of yet.
    I take daily walks and keep as busy as my body will allow me.
    So anyways, life is short.
    If you don't enjoy your time while you can, it'll all be over before you know it.
    Id rather go with a smile on my face than sober and miserable.
    Cheers to your health!
     
  19. bcm119

    bcm119 Savant (1,195) Feb 17, 2001 California
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    That post is going to give the teetotalers a coronary. Well done.
     
  20. LesDewitt4beer

    LesDewitt4beer Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,315) Jan 25, 2021 Minnesota
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    I've 31 new-to-me beers to review. Super positive and excited about it. :beers:
     
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