BeerAdvocate Age Ranges Broken Down (2019)

Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Jan 18, 2020.

  1. Jbe

    Jbe Initiate (30) Apr 16, 2018 Louisiana

    Well, Maybe the 25-34 are all living with their parents, tasting beer, and wining about the weather? Anyone thought of that? Can that 1st category be broken down further? it looks like the California house of representatives...
     
  2. Jbe

    Jbe Initiate (30) Apr 16, 2018 Louisiana

    Would be good to distinguish between those demographics.
     
  3. OscarO67

    OscarO67 Devotee (421) Nov 12, 2011 California
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    Well, I'm 2 years from moving into category 4, lol.
     
  4. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar Initiate (104) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
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    As a professional data geek I have to put my input on this topic. A couple of things scream out, first: "The data is based on hundreds of thousands of registered users and tens of millions of visitors." Okay, one of those numbers is *so* much larger, analytically speaking, that it should be broken out to its own data set. Second, there is a reason the phrase "Lies, damn lies and statistics" is not only enduring, but seldom wrong. Large quantities of data is easy and generating numbers and percentages and stats from that data is not a challenge. But doing it in a way that portrays a truth, or at very least reality, *is* difficult. So that "fraction" of your overall users will actually more likely be data broken down closer to what everybody is expecting, and conversely, excluding that data (registered users) from the larger visitors data will barely nudge the numbers you've already posted.
    All that stated, I'm not trying to knock what you have done, rather explain why the numbers are not what people are expecting. The fact you ran the numbers at all is very fun, kudos. It is primarily for fun after all. Now I relinquish the soapbox (only categories 4 and 5 will know what that means) and return to being schooled on the stuff I am still a noob at, beer.
     
  5. MGtom

    MGtom Initiate (48) Dec 13, 2014 Ohio

    Consider yourself lucky, Woody. Life goes even faster after 55. I'm now in that OLD MAN group. But still drinking good beers !!
     
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  6. GratefulBeerGuy

    GratefulBeerGuy Poo-Bah (2,984) May 20, 2006 New Hampshire
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    41 going on 21...not bad.
     
  7. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,748) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    This is exactly why it was posted. Nothing more, nothing less. A simple reply to a simple request.
     
  8. ktr5010

    ktr5010 Devotee (416) Dec 12, 2014 Illinois
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    Not sure if trolling but we're able to do this in spite of what boomers left in their wake.
     
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  9. Keztag

    Keztag Aspirant (247) Dec 8, 2015 Michigan
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    Right there with you, same month and category switch!
     
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  10. AECJohnson

    AECJohnson Initiate (26) Mar 3, 2017 Arizona

    Didn’t read the whole thread, but unclear about whether the data show unique users or site visits. If the BA stats are site visits, how do they compare to the user accounts (assuming those have birthdates?) — Stats prof here, always looking for fun examples!
     
  11. whatthehull

    whatthehull Meyvn (1,023) Apr 5, 2010 California
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    Hey, I'll take being a part of the 23%ers.
     
  12. jbertsch

    jbertsch Meyvn (1,184) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts

    I never thought BA was for older people. Always thought it was primarily 27 yo line culture geeks without kids so they have the time to stand in said lines.
     
  13. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,425) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    It was explained and clarified in several posts and too much to repeat, so I'll suggest that you read the thread. Here's a link to a search of each post in the thread by Todd, which should be a good starting point.
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/search/118138991/
     
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  14. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,748) Aug 23, 1996 California
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  15. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,425) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Meaning it can't be read by anyone other than me? I didn't know that.
     
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  16. miterkz

    miterkz Initiate (27) Aug 21, 2018 Connecticut
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    Curious as to the margin of error for people under 21 lying about their age? I guess it is probably pretty insignificant
     
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  17. dnoahg

    dnoahg Initiate (121) Oct 28, 2012 Massachusetts

    I’m in that golden age group (#5). Seems we don’t have many members.

    Just a theory, beer drinkers in my age group started their beer habit when pretty much all there was to drink was American Adjunct Lager, and the few beers from Europe. Lowenbrau, Heineken, Becks, etc. And these, while much truer styles, were pretty much what the American companies were trying to mimic taste-wise. There was also massive advertising and marketing which swayed most drinkers (thus the popularity of Bud). I believe that most of these beer drinkers found what they liked (or thought they liked), and found no reason to explore. And let’s face it, human beings can be stubborn, and unwilling to try new tastes. After downing a Bud, a West Coast IPA would blow that drinker’s taste buds to hell. Thus fewer from this age group would likely become BA members.
     
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  18. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Meyvn (1,167) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts

    Same here, what do we get?!
     
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  19. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (4,242) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I probably shouldn't bother being so paranoid since ALL of my information is already out there from the hack of OPM a few years ago, to say nothing of other hacks that got pieces of my information.
     
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  20. ZebulonXZogg

    ZebulonXZogg Crusader (765) May 5, 2015 Illinois
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    Damn, I'll hit 70 soon, never thought I'd make it this far. Lost some great friends along the way that I dearly miss. To Joe, Uncle Richie, & Saur' Baur' and the M&M brothers. Keep that stool open.......
     
  21. wattoclone

    wattoclone Defender (600) Mar 7, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Totally makes sense. Younger folks are trying to find their favorite beer, older fans like me (>65) know what they like and have no need to use BeerAdvocate for help. Also, when I was in my prime beer finding age, there were few choices available in the U.S. anyway. We used to have to drive halfway across the country just to get a can of Coors.
     
  22. scream

    scream Meyvn (1,289) Dec 6, 2014 Wisconsin
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    ^^ I remember those days while I am not sure why one would drive any distance for a can of Coors !
     
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  23. Somajiahu

    Somajiahu Aspirant (222) Dec 20, 2016 Virginia
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    Don't worry! Coming from someone who has been a Cat 4 for years, it gets better. I say "Claim It!". You're in good company!
     
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  24. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Meyvn (1,167) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts

    3 pages is nothin'.

    There's some threads that can go 100+ pages long I think.
     
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  25. Peach63

    Peach63 Disciple (334) Jul 17, 2019 New York
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    Zzzzzz! :grin::wink:
     
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  26. Peach63

    Peach63 Disciple (334) Jul 17, 2019 New York
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    Heck, I'm "only" 56 and I've already buried 3 of my buddies. :cry:
     
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  27. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (6,823) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I've lost a lot of family and friends and that sucks. I've, more than once toasted one of them with a beer that I enjoyed. I'm sure that I'm not the only one who has done that.
     
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  28. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Initiate (153) Jun 13, 2017 California
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    Not one part of getting older I'm looking forward to
     
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  29. scream

    scream Meyvn (1,289) Dec 6, 2014 Wisconsin
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    Understand but you might consider the alternative less thrilling. Cherish the memories !
     
  30. Peach63

    Peach63 Disciple (334) Jul 17, 2019 New York
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    You're not. My dads preferred swill was Carling Black Label. :nauseated_face::grinning: Every now and then, I pick up some to remember him by. Here's to you, Dad! :beers:
     
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  31. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,425) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    My aunt was a beer drinker, and I home-brewed a beer for her 90th birthday party that she really liked. A year or two later I brewed that same beer again because I liked it too. My aunt passed shortly after I brewed the beer, and I still had some fresh bottles so I put one in her casket (with the approval of the undertaker) so that she'd have something to toast me back. RIP, Aunt 'Mutz.'
     
  32. scream

    scream Meyvn (1,289) Dec 6, 2014 Wisconsin
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    Very nice sir !
     
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  33. rgordon

    rgordon Meyvn (1,014) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    You got me 100%. And I am no reluctant prolonged youngster, I started that way.
     
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  34. 57md

    57md Poo-Bah (2,878) Aug 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    The nice thing about statistics is that it can disabuse one of erroneous assumptions.

    If asked to guess, I would have placed the median age of all BAs at about 45. I can see that is waaaay off.

    Any thoughts about looking at ages of users who spend a considerable time on the site? For example, look at ages indexed to the number of forum posts or the number of beer reviews, etc.?
     
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  35. Peach63

    Peach63 Disciple (334) Jul 17, 2019 New York
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    Nice thought. A 90 year old lady beer drinker? I would've liked her. This reminds me, one of my moms closest friends was named Hazel Brown. A few years back, I found a bottle of Hazel Brown, by Sam Adams I believe. I put a note on it that said "Wish you were here to share it with me." and put it on her tombstone.
     
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  36. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Meyvn (1,167) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts

    And I thank you for that! It’s generated some interesting and fun discussion.
     
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  37. SagittariusA

    SagittariusA Disciple (351) Jan 23, 2017 Missouri
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    Should be same (2004 of membership) but they deleted my account after it went dormant for a bit around 2008-2009... so disappointing to lose all those entries.
     
  38. Todd

    Todd Founder (5,748) Aug 23, 1996 California
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    Yeah. Back in the day, we purged inactive accounts. It was after several years though and we sent reminders to log in.
     
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  39. SagittariusA

    SagittariusA Disciple (351) Jan 23, 2017 Missouri
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    Yeah, I understand. Just sucked.
     
  40. hopsngrains

    hopsngrains Initiate (104) Jun 12, 2006 Michigan

    Age is just a number, but I will say that I have been drinking and interested in craft beer for longer than most of the people in the youngest category above. Certainly more than just something for just the youngsters (who seem to have gotten on board especially say, in the last 15 years or so). Beer. It's good for all ages!
     
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