Beers that have been "passed" by industry

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by ridglens, May 9, 2013.

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  1. ridglens

    ridglens Pundit (806) Jan 10, 2010 Indiana

    I haven't been in the scene that long, but I was thinking about beers that have been "passed up" by the industry. Beers that used to be (even just 2-3 years ago) the cream of the crop, the best of the best that everyone drooled over, that are now just "good" or even "really good" because the industry has exploded... I still love most of these beers, some are even on my favorites list, but i think they may not be leading the pack anymore at least in the general consensus. A few that i've come up with (IMHO):

    - Sculpin IPA
    - Hopslam
    - Eclipse BA Stouts
    - Dark Lord (ok, the actual recipe/quality is much to blame on this one)
    - CBS/KBS
    - Surly Darkness
    - Gratitude
    - Imperial Stout Trooper
    - Olde Rabbits Foot
    - Speedway Stout
    - Lost Abbey (almost anything)

    Again, i still love most/all of those beers! But i think they used to be "the" beers to get in my mind, and now they are just nice treats to enjoy or built into such a brand i try to get them anyway. I'm not sure if that's a testament to growing quality of other beers, the increased availability/less "rare" factor, or just the changing moods of "the beer scene", but these past hall-of-famers are waning to me...

    Any thoughts? Other beers i forgot?
     
  2. dougfur

    dougfur Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2011 New York

    I don't know. They may not be the vanguard any more, but good beer never goes out of style.
     
  3. superacct2004

    superacct2004 Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2008 Michigan

    Tough to buy into CBS being on that list having only been bottled once, but I do agree with the concept. They were groundbreaking, but now they are one of many in the style.
     
  4. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Exactly this. The only reason good/great beers would get "passed by" is because consumers and brewers focus on pushing extremes and "innovation" rather than concentrating on quality and excellence. For example, Westmalle tripel, Saison Dupont, Weihenstephaner hefeweissbier, and Celebrator will always be world-class examples of their respective styles.
     
  5. DmouthCaliBrewz

    DmouthCaliBrewz Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2013 New Hampshire
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    Are you talking about a change in quality or hype? Are you saying that other beers got better and so opinions began to reflect this improvement, or that they aren't subject to as much hype anymore due to increase in availability?
     
  6. phooky

    phooky Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2010 New York

    I agree with Sculpin, but to be honest, I really think the quality of current Sculpin isn't as good as it used to be (cliche, I know)
     
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  7. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I was thinking more along the lines of Harpoon IPA or Magic Hat, not Scuplin or CBS.
     
  8. ridglens

    ridglens Pundit (806) Jan 10, 2010 Indiana

    i'll be a smartass:
    YES

    I think i listed some (and others could be listed) because other, newer, better beer exists (maybe ORF and IST). I think others have actually gotten worse (DL, others maybe). And some i think are just not the most hyped/new/rare thing anymore (darkness, speedway, eclipse)...

    But most i think are a combination. All (well, all decent) new/rare/reputable beers get an initial hype bump, so maybe some of these are just the herd moving onto something of comparable quality but newer/rarer/more exciting. But i do think that some beers (not all on my list) were the best, but have since been outdone by the growing competition.

    Again, i love all of these beers! just kind of a general comment on the whims of BA haha.
     
  9. ridglens

    ridglens Pundit (806) Jan 10, 2010 Indiana

    I didn't put CBS on there so much because it's old news, more just because it used to be "THE" BA stout everyone had to get and searched for to maybe miraculously find on tap... Now it's just a real solid (and old, i guess) bottle that was distributed and apparently doesn't age that well. We can remove it it you want, it's probably the outlier up there....

    I'm leaving sculpin, though, you never hear anything about that beer anymore, with all the headytopper/fathead/hillfarmstead/pliny level of quality going around!
     
  10. DmouthCaliBrewz

    DmouthCaliBrewz Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2013 New Hampshire
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    When was Magic Hat ever even considered good?
     
  11. ridglens

    ridglens Pundit (806) Jan 10, 2010 Indiana

    When it was that or keystone in school i thought it was ok... but just barely better than the stones :wink:
     
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  12. dougfur

    dougfur Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2011 New York

    I'll defend Magic Hat (a bit). They're a perfectly capable brewery and often put out good stuff as limited releases. I think their HIPA is pretty good. Roxy Rolls was pretty good and I've had other IPA's from them that were solid. It's just that they hardly ever brew the good ones. I think they're a little more focused on money these days.
     
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  13. deadonhisfeet

    deadonhisfeet Pooh-Bah (2,481) Apr 23, 2011 Kentucky
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    If you think KBS has been ``passed'' by the industry, I'd like to know just what you're drinking that is so much better and has caused you to forget it. Whatever it is, it must be that purple dragon I've been looking for since I first tried KBS.
     
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  14. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    It's the #3 rated American IPA. It was #1 the last time I checked.
     
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  15. palmdalethriller

    palmdalethriller Zealot (624) Dec 26, 2007 California

    How old are you again? I'm not sure I'd ever say Magic Hat was the pick of the litter, but they make a handful of pretty good beers, and it seems like they were better years ago before they became a little more corporate.

    Stay pimpin.
     
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  16. palmdalethriller

    palmdalethriller Zealot (624) Dec 26, 2007 California

    Look, I know you stated that many of these beers are still your favorites, and that you like them - but this attitude is exactly why people in the industry laugh at us on these forums.

    "I'm just not that excited to drink Sculpin anymore because it's not new and exciting..."

    Seriously, who gives a shit? These beers haven't been passed by the industry, they've been passed by the tickers who stop posting three ISO: threads a day trying to get the beer. They've been passed by people who don't trust their own senses enough to know when they like a beer and so they just go by what others are talking about. They've been passed by beer bloggers (I'm in that family, but like most families its full of idiots) who are constantly seeking the newest and neatest thing.

    I get it - new is exciting, I too get excited about new beers or new approaches or experimental things.

    What's your point? That people don't generate the same kind of hype for these beers any more? So what? Are you disappointed that people can go into their local high-end beer retailer and find a lot of those beers sitting in a cooler, properly stored and fresh?

    Threads like these are fuel for the fire when it comes time to point to the silliness of the beer geek community. I'm not saying we need to be all unicorns and rainbows, but what in the hell is the point of finding nits to pick about these beers?
     
  17. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    I think Chimay, while still delicious, is just sorta average now. I'll take an Allagash Tripel over a Chimay White any day.
     
  18. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Because far to many BA's are like lemmings going over the hype cliff.
     
  19. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Since you're still in college, I'm going to guess you don't have much perspective on the mid to late 90's beer scene. Not that I ever liked #9, but Magic Hat was a pretty big player in the early craft beer scene and did survive the first bubble that bursted (although they probably shouldn't have).
     
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  20. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Re-title thread to:
    "What world class beers have increased production/distribution enough to curtail their previous hype and trade value?"
     
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