Beers without nicknames

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  1. pro100

    pro100 Initiate (107) Oct 12, 2014 California

    ... Seems like their losing their luster. Do you still buy craft beers with generic no frills titles like IPA, Amber Ale, Porter, Pilsner, etc... Or do you need that trendy/sexy nickname to get you going? No judgement either way in my book.
     
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  2. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (2,430) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    If it's well made I don't care what they call it.
     
  3. Lahey

    Lahey Devotee (402) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    Sometimes the names are just frivolous bullshit and distract from the beer, but some are decent descriptors. If a beer has added flavors or a certain taste to it (dank, juicy, fruity) then a creative name can get that across and entertain all at once. Being that so many beers are variants of the standard, weird nicknames seem to be the new norm. Great topic for sure. Usually the funny named ones get my attention, but mostly because I like trying new things.
     
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  4. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Disciple (328) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire
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    I buy snpa, founders Porter, and JA house lager all the time.

    The names are just a means to stand out from the crowd a bit though. Most are obnoxious to say out loud though so I find myself pointing to menus quite often. The names don't matter to me. Just the beer.
     
  5. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,806) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    You know how the best pizza places don't deliver? Yeah, it's kinda like that...should be, anyway:wink:.
     
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  6. Lahey

    Lahey Devotee (402) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    I know what you mean. I ordered one called "you figure it out". The bartender and my fiancée looked at me like I was a big dummy till I pointed it out on the tap list.
     
  7. Druid_51

    Druid_51 Initiate (134) Aug 11, 2013 Kentucky

    Stone IPA....so, yes, I do....
     
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  8. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (10,003) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    You mention nicknames and titles, then start naming styles. Styles are fairly well defined, though admittedly have proliferated beyond all reason. What are you really asking? Examples?
     
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  9. jvgoor3786

    jvgoor3786 Poo-Bah (1,929) May 28, 2015 Arkansas
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    I like that Founders used a lot of generic names.

    Porter
    Centennial IPA
    Breakfast Stout
    Azacca IPA

    Plus, it makes it easy for me. I have a hard time keeping all Lagunitas' straight. Someone remind me what style Sucks is again?
     
  10. Lahey

    Lahey Devotee (402) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    Sucks is an ipa, like all their beers:wink: I do like their hoppy beers though.
     
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  11. jvgoor3786

    jvgoor3786 Poo-Bah (1,929) May 28, 2015 Arkansas
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    Oh, yeah. Hop Stooopid is incredible fresh. I also like their wheat IPA, but I can't remember that name either. It's like Little something or other. :wink:
     
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  12. raynmoon

    raynmoon Champion (804) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado
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    Evil twin..


    "I made friends with a tree once, but it told me it liked Ipa more than me"


    Something like that.
     
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  13. pjbear05

    pjbear05 Initiate (132) May 28, 2008 Florida

    Usually no, I would go buy style of beer. But I must admit I was intrigued at the prospect of Founder's DKML.
     
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  14. pro100

    pro100 Initiate (107) Oct 12, 2014 California

    How do you not know what I'm talking about??

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  15. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Poo-Bah (2,213) Sep 15, 2014 New York
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    I do admittedly love clever beer names, but no, a beer's name doesn't factor into whether or not I like it. One of my top favorite IPAs is just Finback's "IPA".
     
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  16. ThinBlueLine

    ThinBlueLine Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2014 New Jersey

    If it comes recommended, is made well, and a style I like, it could be called "Cat Piss" for all I care.
     
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  17. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Poo-Bah (1,834) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    Getting tired of the cutesy names, also getting tired of people coming into my store and loudly commenting “I can’t believe this is called Sweet Baby Jesus”...
     
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  18. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,080) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    The Feds use the terms "Brand Name" and "Fanciful Name" but they aren't too fussy about it, since many brewers get it confused on their COLAs.

    As noted on BBC's beer below, some brewers list style as the "Fanciful Name".

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    The TTB also has a small list of their recognized styles - what they call "Class/Type" - which beers can be labeled and an even shorter (but duplicate) list of Class/types under which COLAs can be filed:
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  19. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,785) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Names don't attract me to a beer. As long as the style is clearly visible I'm okay with that.

    Some names are so wild that I think brewers are competing with other for "wierdness" rights, and they are high on something when they dream these names up.
     
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  20. rgordon

    rgordon Meyvn (1,079) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    I like beers with names that relate to local history and local natural features. Like Foothills Pilot Mountain Pale Ale, Highland Gaelic Ale, Natty Greene's Elm Street IPA , and Black Powder Imperial Stout (American Revolution).
     
  21. meefmoff

    meefmoff Devotee (473) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I generally appreciate clever turns of phrase/odd word pairings and such so I suppose that can be something of a plus for me on the subtle marketing side of things.

    This can quickly turn to annoyance though if they don't have a description on the damn container somewhere to explain what the hell it actually it is. Pick up a cool looking can, search around it for info, come up empty, put it back down and go on to the next one. It doesn't happen super frequently, but I'm surprised it happens as much as it does.
     
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  22. zid

    zid Meyvn (1,205) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Your thread was confusing because you're actually not talking about nicknames at all... you're talking about actual beer names. "Zombie Dust" is not a nickname. PBR is a nickname.

    All the time. Stupid, kitschy or long names are more of a turn off than generic ones. But I buy the beer I want regardless. The one downside for me for breweries that stick to a naming convention of brewery+style are cases where confusion is caused due to such a brewer having too many IPAs.
     
  23. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,080) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    The most annoying aspect of it is the fact that it corresponds with the new canning fad. It's a lot easier to read the brand name/style on the side or end of a sixpack "basket" or, even if you have to, to pull out a bottle from that sixpack and read the label for more info. But with cans, you've got to pick up the entire 4/6-pack, and then spin one of the cans to be able to read the label - a two-handed operation! :astonished:


    It doesn't happen often to me, because I started ignoring all those canned beers from new breweries with the (supposed) "clever" names and "cool" graphics until I read otherwise. Such as this example:
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    WTF? I guess it's some kinds of beer from some brewery...
     
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  24. cjgiant

    cjgiant Poo-Bah (5,264) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    Well, you do have a problem with using (to be obvious) "IPA" as your name and descriptor if you have 4 IPAs available. What if Founders made two porters? One has to have a name other than just "Founders Porter" for differentiation.

    The actual naming, well, that's where trademarking come in and having to come up with a (for the most part) unique name among 6000+ other breweries also brewing beers.

    All that said, the more info on the package, the better, regardless of brewer or naming convention they use.
     
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  25. rgordon

    rgordon Meyvn (1,079) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    My favorite beer is Gibb's 100 Blind Man's Paradise Greensboro Pale Ale. It's a long winded name and a gorgeous beer. BFD...
     
  26. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (7,566) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Ya could just call it Porter #1, Porter #2, etc.
     
  27. cjgiant

    cjgiant Poo-Bah (5,264) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    Agreed... but Marketing 101 will tell you that is limiting. From a grander, not "in the know [local] beer geek" world, who would know the difference? It also doesn't beg an easier recognition. So yes, but I'd be hard pressed a business advisor would rightfully argue for this technique until you're already established (see FW Luponic Distortion).
     
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  28. gopens44

    gopens44 Poo-Bah (2,362) Aug 9, 2010 Virginia
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    I read descriptions and if it seems compelling, I’ll buy. At the very most, a name can cause me to not buy the beer.
     
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  29. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Poo-Bah (2,280) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut
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    I couldn't disagree more.
     
  30. cjgiant

    cjgiant Poo-Bah (5,264) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    On which part?
     
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  31. pjbear05

    pjbear05 Initiate (132) May 28, 2008 Florida

    "Drink Tree Frog Beer and you'll feel great and have lots of friends."
    Gilbert Shelton, via The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers.
     
  32. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (10,003) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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  33. teromous

    teromous Poo-Bah (2,739) Mar 21, 2010 Virginia
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    I buy both. Breweries that are just starting off might mark a specific beer as their flagship pale ale (for example Sierra Nevada Pale Ale) then down the line develop another pale ale (for example Sierra Nevada's Sidecar Orange Pale Ale). While some people might see that as being lazy, it is almost more a sign of respect from the brewer that they are saying "this is our namesake ____ beer."

    The same goes for packaging; a smaller brewery might not be able to afford a big marketing team or an artist. Williamsburg Alewerks (Alewerks Brewing Company) has, for the most part, always had simple labels and simple names. Over the years they've expanded the artwork on their labels and had a few more creative names.

    On a side note there is the question of professionalism versus creativity and how you approach your customer. Consider a customer who is looking for a beer on the shelf and doesn't listen to heavy metal, doesn't read comic books, and just wants a good craft beer. Maybe they don't want to carry around a six-pack of Todd McFarlane.
     
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  34. Tamarack

    Tamarack Initiate (52) Sep 22, 2016 Massachusetts

    I see that so often with American alts. Rising Tide's Ishmael "Copper Ale" or Long Trail Ale anyone?
     
  35. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (2,430) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    On the whole I'm lenient to the point of disinterest regarding graphics so long as they're not so immaturely gross as to picture a dirty diaper on a brown ale.
     
  36. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (10,003) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Suppose they're not alluding to the Red Ale style, just the red color
     
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  37. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (10,003) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Like Brown Note? Yeah, don't think I'd buy that. Also - have you wanted to order a tap of a beer but the name is so idiotic that you can't bring yourself to say it, so you order it by style or number on their board?
     
  38. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (2,430) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    No I haven't but I will ask "what's that thing on the third tap".
     
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  39. Tamarack

    Tamarack Initiate (52) Sep 22, 2016 Massachusetts

    I have to say I'm a sucker for a beer just called by it's style. Gimme a helles called Helles and a bitter called Bitter. The new habit of beers having a sentence-long name reminds me of the era of mid-2000's metal/hardcore band names. *shudder*
     
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  40. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (2,430) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Sometimes I've wondered if you won't call it what it is then what are you trying to hide.
     
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