Beers won't clear even with biofine

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  1. DavidlovesCBC

    DavidlovesCBC Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2014 Florida

    sup y'all, As the title states.
    69% pale malt rahr
    23% white wheat malt
    8% flaked barely

    Mashed at 150 for 60 min

    Fremented with omega yeast all the bretts

    Added biofine when I racked to the keg (not cold crashed) Been about 2 weeks and no signs of clearing. Is it my grist? Or potential my filtered tap water? This is the second hop forward beer that would not clear.
     
  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes...and a lack of sufficient time
     
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  3. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    How did it look in the carboy/bucket?
     
  4. DavidlovesCBC

    DavidlovesCBC Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2014 Florida

    Turbid in the fermenter. Fermented for 4 weeks. Stable gravity for a good week.
     
  5. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Brett doesn't tend to flocc easily.
     
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  6. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    My experience with Brett is that when you use Brett C, it tends to clear easier than a Brett blend that doesn't use Brett C. Are you sure it fully attenuated? If the yeast was still trying to work, it is hard to clear.
     
  7. DavidlovesCBC

    DavidlovesCBC Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2014 Florida

    It had a stable gravity for a week, I know for secondary Brett fermentations will take awhile. I thought 100% Brett takes about the same time as sacc
     
  8. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    It is not uncommon for Brett blends to appear stable for that amount of time and then drop a few more points. How low did it get? Anything above about 1.004 and I'm going to bet that you still have some yeast trying to eat.
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Regardless of the OG? I'm no Brett expert, but FG is a function of both the OG and attenuation.
     
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  10. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    A single strain Brett primary acts more like a single strain Sacc primary. A Brett blend acts like a Sacc + Brett blend. You have changed the environment.
     
  11. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    A high gravity brett beer would still get very low because it can metabolize dextrins. I suppose my 1.084 brett stout didn't get that low... 1.008, but it also was 100% Lambicus which is not the best attenuator on its own. In a blend, I would have expected the gravity to get down to 1.004 or so.
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Right, but it doesn't use all the dextrins, or you'd end up with something like 122% apparent (100% real) attenuation (e.g. a 1.060 wort would end up at 0.987, not 1.004). So whatever dextrins it can't/doesn't use will be present in greater quantities (assuming same starting proportions) in a higher OG wort.
     
  13. DavidlovesCBC

    DavidlovesCBC Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2014 Florida

    Never knew this! So long story short. Should I pull this keg out of the keezer to warm up and get really funky?
     
  14. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    You could. For my blended batches I go 3 week primary then crash for a couple weeks in the keezer. They clear fine at about 3-4 weeks from kegging.
     
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