Belgian Pale Ale with 3711?

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  1. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I've been thinking about using what's leftover in my fridge (hops/yeast) to throw together and make a brew. Not really planning on purchasing anything outside of these ingredients. Has anyone else ever just thrown together a recipe, not really caring if it goes with a certain style or not?

    I've got an 8 oz ball jar of Wyeast 3711 slurry that I'm thinking I can use to make a dry belgian pale ale.

    5.5 gal batch

    10 lb Belgian 2-row
    1 lb Caramunich

    Mash at 152 ºF

    Boil
    .75 oz Magnum at 60 min
    .5 oz Chinook at 30
    1 lb sugar at flameout
    An undetermined amount of dried homegrown Centennial and Cascade hops at flameout/whirlpool.

    Anyone else ever use 3711, or any kind of saison yeast, to make a belgian pale ale?
     
  2. aobrehm

    aobrehm Initiate (0) Jun 18, 2015 Oregon

    Among the Belgian beer styles, Belgian Pale has very restrained esters. Even if you ferment this at a cool temperature, 3711 is going to throw off lots of fun esters. My guess is that this recipe might resemble a Belgian Blond more so than a Pale when all is said and done.

    That said, this sounds like a really fun experiment. French yeast, Belgian malts, homegrown American hops... the marketing possibilities are endless. Cheers!
     
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  3. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    Cool, thanks. Yea I figure since 3711 doesn't lend a whole lot of the funky belgian yeasty esters (more peppery, fruity), then it could just end up being a nice dry hoppy beer. I really like dry pale ales, so I'm fine with that. I'm thinking it'll definitely be palatable, and cheap to make!
     
  4. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Absolutely, results have been mixed but would not hesitate to try it again.

    FWIW, I think the 3711 will drop your FG so low this won't resemble a BPA. My suggestion: don't "declare" what style you are brewing . . . wait until it's finished before proclaiming the results. If it doesn't match any style that is still no problem (secretly I think you will end up with a Saison).
     
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  5. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    Fine by me! Thanks for the advice. It's kind of fun to make a 'leftovers' beer, and see how it turns out.

    Yea... the last saison I made with that yeast dropped my FG below 1.000. I've never seen that happen before. The 3711 still retains a good mouthfeel though and doesn't feel 'dry'. If it tastes like a hoppy saison, I'm cool with that.
     
  6. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    It's a hoppy American saison. The caramunich police will pay you a visit on brew day.
     
  7. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    Great, can't wait!
     
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