Belgian tasting

Discussion in 'The Bar' started by Galensevinne, Mar 14, 2012.

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  1. Galensevinne

    Galensevinne Initiate (0) May 4, 2009 Maryland

    Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking initially about more of the belgian styles vs. true belgian beers but I definitely want to have some trappist ales and true belgians. I looked in my beer storage and found a Gulden Draak, Chimay Red and an Ovila Quad so I will probably start with those and build. The cool thing is my wife is really into these beer tastings as friends really like it so I have a bit of a blank check at the beer store.

    Anyone know of any available pairings with cheese? That is her job while mine is the beer.

    These are all really good ideas and a great framework to begin. Thanks again.
     
  2. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    Gouda, brie, Trappist cheeses, etc, any good cheese preferably one unpasteurized:wink: . The food and beer forum is great for pairing or Garrett's book. I not had a bad beer and cheese pairing and I had almost every cheese there is, Because man I love cheese more than beer even! Grapes and apples work well with beer and cheese.
     
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  3. rogueleonardi

    rogueleonardi Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Ohio

    Most of the ones i've had have been listed already, but you should try and get ahold of Issaquah Brewery's Menage a Frog. Best Belgian tripel I've ever had, and everyone at the KBS release was raving about it.
     
  4. Galensevinne

    Galensevinne Initiate (0) May 4, 2009 Maryland

    One more question. In trying to set up what makes a belgian distinct, I thought I would do a quick taste comparison up front with a an American IPA like a DFH 60 minute vs. a Belgian IPA like a Raging Bitch to demonstrate the different taste that comes from the yeast plus i might try to showcase a low ABV belgian style like a Leffe Brown which I personally really pick up on a bready characteristic to demonstrate the breadiness of belgian style beers.

    This part of the tasting will be upfront and lowest ABV possible to showcase the yeast and breadiness characteristics. These folks all have to drive home eventually and i would prefer the higher ABVs in the later tastings. Any ideas on how to compare the different yeast characteristics "head to head" and "breadiness"
     
  5. BirdsandHops

    BirdsandHops Grand Pooh-Bah (3,061) Apr 14, 2008 Oregon
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    Eh, when I think of Belgian styles I think of the classics. If it were a sour tasting, I'd recommend some gueuzes, lambics, and Flanders.

    I agree that most actual Belgian beers are better than their North American counterparts (which is why my list is mostly Belgian), but there are plenty of exceptions to the rule. Dubbels are one style that I think American ones are often as good as Belgian ones, though tripels, quads, BSPAs and BSDAs are generally better from Belgium. That being said, La Fin Du Monde is better than most Belgian Tripels while Chimay White is little better than mediocre.
     
  6. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    I believe "Drie" means 3 in Flemish, so tewaris was correct about the brewery you were referring to.
     
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  7. Wowcoolman

    Wowcoolman Pooh-Bah (1,660) Sep 25, 2010 California
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    If you're trying to limit things, then why pour an American IPA at a Belgian tasting? Either go for diversity- one from some of the styles listed above; or showcase one or two styles and offer comparisons- like Westmalle Tripel vs Chimay White.
     
  8. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Yep, Maredsous is sold alongside Duvel all over bottle shops in SoCal.
     
  9. Galensevinne

    Galensevinne Initiate (0) May 4, 2009 Maryland

    I would only pour an American IPA to compare it to a Belgian-style IPA because I think it would be a good way to juxtapose the the difference between belgian yeast vs. non-belgian yeast which I think contributes to much of the difference in taste. Just to give people a reference point in whagt to look for in taste moving forward into the belgians.
     
  10. Wowcoolman

    Wowcoolman Pooh-Bah (1,660) Sep 25, 2010 California
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    Makes sense, though there would be more variables than just yeast, including age as imports have a longer journey.
     
  11. Kath

    Kath Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2012 South Carolina

    Wow...I'm not privy to whats being charged in the US at the moment. I can only comment on what I am charged here and $16 is not it. If Leffe cost $9 a pack, I'd expect Grimbergen to be similar, maybe a bit more. Its good in my opinion, but not that good.
     
  12. Kath

    Kath Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2012 South Carolina

    good p
    good point...
     
  13. valdieu2

    valdieu2 Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 Maine

    I say you pack everybody on a bus and go to Ebenezers. Then you can try everything.
     
  14. aasher

    aasher Grand Pooh-Bah (4,557) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
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    I think he was referring to the Pannepots?
     
  15. pj2577

    pj2577 Initiate (0) Nov 17, 2007 Rhode Island

    Another option at a traditional belgian hopped beer is this classic, Poperings Hommel Bier. its brewed right in the middle of the hop growing region of Belgium and not far from the museum that is diedicated to the hop growers and the people that used to come to harvest the hops anually. they know hops!
     
  16. Kath

    Kath Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2012 South Carolina

    I think you should go thru the motions on this. Taste, Aroma, Mouthfeel, etc...clear the senses then try the other. I feel that what you experience will (most likely) be different than mine would be given the same parameters. Attenuations will be different. That said, its going to boil down to what you'll like and what you dont. It will come to what Belgians you'll like and others you'll pass on. Alot of great suggestions were put on this thread and I certainly enjoyed listening to all. Its been an eye opener on what to expect when my family and I return to the U.S and that maybe not all is bleak for me (and my wife). But, this is your experience...enjoy it.
     
  17. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    lets just say we disagree, I know lots of Tripels made in Belgium better than anything outside of it. Who makes a Dubbel here in States better than Westmalle? Prey tell.
     
  18. Galensevinne

    Galensevinne Initiate (0) May 4, 2009 Maryland

    I think i am going with this:

    1. Lambic: Lindemans Gueuze Grand Cru "Cuvée René
    2. Flanders Red: Rodenbach Original
    3. Saison: Saison Dupont

    4. Blonde: Leffe
    5. Dubbel: Chimay Red
    6. Tripel: Westmalle
    7. Quad: Ovila


    I haven't found many Quads in 750ml bottles other than the Ovila that I have had for a several months in the cellar. Any other ideas in 750 bottles?

    I also have a Gulden Draak but not sure of that is repetitive and should just save that one.

    Thoughts? Thanks.
     
  19. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    That seems like a pretty solid list to me.
     
  20. valdieu2

    valdieu2 Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 Maine

    I don't understand the great love for La Fin Du Monde. It ain't bad, but there's a whole lot better triples in the world. Westmalle, Val Dieu, Chimay, and St Bernardus, even Allagash and CBC. I think it is rated so high just because of it's price point. Many people try it because it's cheap. Good yes, the best- not even close. By the way, I consider Gulden Draak another great triple. Just my .035 cents worth.
     
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