Berliner Dunkel?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by NiceFly, Aug 7, 2012.

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  1. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    I tried the 1809 Berlinerweiss the other day and started thinking what a Berlinerweiss from a Dunkelweiss wort would be like.

    So naturally I have to try it (when my ingredients come in) but has anyone else thought or tried this?
     
  2. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 California

    Be bold sir, be bold. Wyeast has their BW blend out right now, Y3191 I believe is the number. I have it in secondary right now, smells great.
     
  3. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    Thanks, I think I am going to try ChrisKennedy's sour mash in a corny keg deal. He transfered the mash to a corny keg then bubbled CO2 to displace the oxygen.
    After that I will just take some playdoo and an airlock to the pressure release valve and set it in the sun for a few days.
    I am waiting on a bulk order of grain, but this is definately on the list.
     
  4. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 California

    Instead of play dough why not just hook up a disconnect to the gas side and run a chunk of tubing down to a jar of water, like a blow off tube.
     
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  5. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    Your are a genius. Just remove the damn poppet! Great idea I am going to steal that.
     
  6. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    so you thinking sweet/sour or roasty/sour. Wondering where you're planning on getting your color from, more caramel & melanoidin type malts or darker roasted grains? more brown than black or going straight black? I did a sour stout once that was pretty good but didn't make enough of an impression to want to do it again.
     
  7. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    I am thinking sweet/sour. I have Best Malz Dark Munich (8-12L) and their Dark Wheat ordered. I will go 50/50 or 40/60 like I would normally do for a Dunkelweiss, except treat is like a Berliner weiss. So more melanoidin type malts.

    Definately no roasted grains. Not the profile I am looking for and I am not big on color adjustments (except when I want to turn everything black :wink:)

    Just one of those moments where I thought "hmm" and will have to satisfy my curiosity and wondering if anyone else is this nuts. I have never heard of a commercial example of this. My thought is along the lines of seasonal saisons, except this is a seasonal berliner weiss for the fall.
     
  8. nathanjohnson

    nathanjohnson Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2007 Vermont

    Have you used the sour mash in a corny method before? I'm curious as to its efficacy. If it works well, I'd be tempted to dedicate a corny to sour mashing.
     
  9. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    No I have not, but it worked well for Chris based on his post about it.
     
  10. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    Interesting thought. I've seen a beer from Southampton called an Imperial Berliner Weisse, but have not tried it. It might be one worth trying to see what they did and how it came out.
     
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