berliner (the cliff notes version)

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  1. Liberatiscioli

    Liberatiscioli Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I pitched yeast on 7/12 still in the fermentor no activity left but I plan on bottling this weekend. (kids and work!)
     
  2. monkeybeerbelly

    monkeybeerbelly Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012 New York

    i pitched a whole packet of us-05 to 2.5 gallons of wort on sunday night and i just checked it now (friday afternoon) and the gravity is still the same.
    i started fermenting at about 68 degrees and now its about 73 or so in there.

    any ideas? i dont know the ph but would a low ph halt fermentation completely?
    maybe @OldSock knows whats up....
     
  3. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    Really low pH could inhibit fermentation. Did you rehydrate the yeast? Triply important going into a soured beer. Try a starter of 3711 if things don't budge.
     
  4. Liberatiscioli

    Liberatiscioli Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Bottling day! Pre sour gravity 1.04. Pre boil gravity 1.035 FG 1.012. pH stayed steady 3.6. ABV 3.68%

    Wish I knew how to upload a picture on BA. Looks like everything is starting to settle the top 5 inches is a nice golden dark yellow clear color. Taste just like sour lemonade and hasn't even carbonated yet! Wonderful!
     
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  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You can't directly. You have to upload to a different site (Photobucket works well), and then link to it in your BA post.
     
  6. monkeybeerbelly

    monkeybeerbelly Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012 New York

    ya i did rehydrate. 3711 means another trip to the LHBS which is not so local, or harvesting from a bottle of saison that i did in February.
    will bringing the temp up help at all, or is the low ph killing all of the us-05 and its too late for that?
     
  7. monkeybeerbelly

    monkeybeerbelly Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012 New York

    @OldSock and @Liberatiscioli and anyone else that could help(!)

    so i pitched 1 rehydatred pack of US-05 on july 19 to 2.5 gallons of wort, OG 1.020
    today afetr 2 and half weeks in the gravity dropped only to 1.012 or so.
    is it finished? im unsure and i was kinda hoping it would drop to around 1.001.
    would bottling at this point be asking for trouble? the beer smells and tastes great!
     
  8. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    If there isn't Brett that may be as far as it'll go. Did you write up your complete process?
     
  9. monkeybeerbelly

    monkeybeerbelly Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012 New York

    kind of. i did miss the gravity check post souring/pre-boil.
    should i let it go another week to be sure its finished?
     
  10. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    With over 100 posts, I think we have to acknowledge that this may no longer be the Cliff Notes version.
     
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  11. Liberatiscioli

    Liberatiscioli Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2013 Pennsylvania

    you sir @pweis909 are correct! Cracked one on Wednesday approx. 4.5 weeks. Carbonation was perfect taste is outstanding like a sour lemonade champagne. Wife approves and I am very happy with the results! This was almost too easy. Plan on brewing one more the @OldSock way before football starts will be perfect for tailgating!

    Ill try and upload a pick here this weekend
     
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  12. Liberatiscioli

    Liberatiscioli Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2013 Pennsylvania

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  14. corm44

    corm44 Pundit (847) Aug 28, 2014 New York
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    I also just popped open a bottle of my first ever attempt at a berliner last night. it's been bottle conditioning for about 4 weeks now and the carbonation is almost there but not quite. I'm going to give it another week or two and see how it is. the taste is great, though, and I'm amazed that somehow my first attempt at a sour mash seems to have worked perfectly
     
  15. Liberatiscioli

    Liberatiscioli Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I agree too simple! I used about 8oz of dextrose in my carbing. Big nice foam on top!
     
  16. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    I have an old pin-lock keg that sounds like it would be a good fermenting vessel for my sour brews. I am doing more and more research and I am itching at brewing a Berliner very soon. Do I need to rig this up to where i can let the slight amount of Co2 be released on it's own as opposed to me relieving the Co2 manually?
     
  17. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    n00b question: I am wanting to make a Berliner this weekend...my LHBS just got up and going and does not have a wide variety of grains yet...with that being said, I plan on doing the sour mash version as I am happier with what I've read based on the results. Now to the question, the U.S. 2-Row (not crushed) that I need is the regular 2-Row? Or is it a special 2-Row with the lacto on it?
     
  18. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    @OldSock @Lukass
     
  19. Liberatiscioli

    Liberatiscioli Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I used straight up 1/2 lb. German pils uncrushed. Same used in my (60% 40% pils to wheat base) For my 5 gallon batch my pH hit 3.6.
     
  20. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I sour wort in a keg, and don't have any sort of automatic CO2 release, except for the emergency relief valve, but it doesn't seem to ever be deployed in that mode. I do keep a pressure gauge on the gas post, and if the pressure creeps up, I release some manually.

    Any base malt would do. I would avoid specialty malts, just to prevent inadvertently extracting some unwanted color.

    Sour Mashing, Sour Wort-ing, and Fermenting with Lacto in the mix are all different (typically mutually exclusive) techniques. The keg is really useful for sour wort-ing. If you're doing a sour mash, and boiling after the mash, you don't need any special sort of fermentation setup. (Not even a redundant "bug" fermenter, which would otherwise ensure you don't infect future non-sours.) That's because the boil will kill the bugs in the already soured wort, and you can pitch a Sacch strain for fermentation.
     
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