Best American-Brewed Saisons?

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Poo-Bah (4,964) Dec 25, 2003 California


    And then everything else.

    Tank 7 is good.
  2. ELS

    ELS Devotee (422) Apr 22, 2012 Florida

    Rather than name Saisons already mentioned. I'll add one

    Swamp head Saison Du Swamp. In my top three.
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  3. BowWowWowYippyYoIPA

    BowWowWowYippyYoIPA Initiate (0) Dec 30, 2014 California

  4. BowWowWowYippyYoIPA

    BowWowWowYippyYoIPA Initiate (0) Dec 30, 2014 California

    Peche n Brett is amazing as well.
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  5. Plower

    Plower Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2014 Texas

    Hill Farmstead and Crooked Stave are the big players in the saison game. If you are drinking anything else you might be playing little league and not know it. Not that I'm knocking the others...I'd just need to find a reason to stop drinking what I've currently got.
  6. brentusaurus

    brentusaurus Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2012 California

    Seizoen Bretta
    Saison Brett
    Love Buzz

    Yeah I love the brett...

    Unbretted, Tank 7 and Opal are my favs.
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  7. Nightwish1094

    Nightwish1094 Initiate (0) Apr 24, 2010 Texas

    Jester King Das Wunderkind
    Prairie Ale
    Prairie Standard
    Prairie Hop
    Allagash Saison
    Boulevard Tank 7 and Saison Brett
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  8. southdenverhoo

    southdenverhoo Devotee (403) Aug 13, 2004 Colorado

    Well...I think that, too....and then I think I might be suffering from confirmation bias. But yeah, I've had the same thought, about both beers you mention.
  9. Plower

    Plower Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2014 Texas

    Hold on...what European Saison is above something like Hill Farmstead? Am I missing some things here?
  10. Blueapollo420

    Blueapollo420 Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2014 Vermont

    Prairie ale, ommegang Hennepin and saison du buff (drinking one right now) and logsdons whole portfolio are friggin great beers
  11. VitisVinifera

    VitisVinifera Initiate (138) Feb 25, 2013 California

    not a big saison fan, but the Merica by Prairie was amazing (also amazingly expensive)
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  12. StrappingYoungLad

    StrappingYoungLad Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2013 Indiana

    The recent Boulevard/Ommegang collab was amazing. I highly enjoyed Spring Belle as well.
  13. LakerLeith

    LakerLeith Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2013 California

    Sante Adairius makes some amazing saisons.
    Saison Bernice is my favorite saison, ever.
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  14. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    My top five, in order:
    1. Tank 7 (Honestly could be in the running for my favorite beer, period)
    2. Saison-Brett (And it comes out next week!!!)
    3. Arthur (Only beer I've ever had from HF, but it's so good that if I never had another HF, I'd be okay with it)
    4. Love Buzz (I'm shocked it took almost 50 posts to get a mention)
    5. Peche N' Brett (Need more of this in my life. Missed out this year.)
    Honorable mention (no order):

    Le Saisonnier
    Prairie Ale
    Prairie Hop
  15. unhyped

    unhyped Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2015 Oregon

    You need to start drinking more saisons if you think those too are the only big players. I'll put logsdons saisons against either one of those two any day. Just saying. I might be wrong thought because obviously you are the king taster of saisons so I hope you approve of my opinion.:wink:
  16. LordCrabapple

    LordCrabapple Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2006 England

    Saison is an American type of beer now. Newer ones brewed in Belgium (such as Urthel Saisonnière) are, no doubt, made with an eye on the American market. Perhaps it was America that made it into a 'style', I'm not sure.
  17. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Devotee (431) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois

    Saison is a crazy category.

    Allagash, Boulevard Tank 7, Goose Island Sofie. I think these are the best of the big guys.

    Penrose makes an awesome session saison at 4.3% with honey. I could drink that all day. Also locally apex predator is fantastic.

    I had funkwerks saison last year and it impresses me as well.

    Now when you start talking saisons with adjunts it becomes a whole new ball game.
  18. Anaxagoris

    Anaxagoris Initiate (0) Sep 14, 2014 Washington

    De Garde Petit Desay
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  19. BeerDunson

    BeerDunson Initiate (112) Jul 20, 2012 Ohio

    Black Raven Pour les diseaux
    Apex Predator
    Prairie Brewing Elizaseeth and Saison Ale
    The Commons Brewery Urban Farmhouse Ale
    Boulevard Saison with brett
  20. DovaliHops

    DovaliHops Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    I'm a saison snob... I would always compare everything to Fantome (and I still will). Fantome is the saison master. Even with their lack of consistency, it makes me appreciate their barnyard beauties more. With that being said, I've always loved me some Hennepin and Dupont. I have to say that Libertine Pub in Morro Bay KILLED IT with the Morro Rock Saison. So good! Everything that I want in a saison. I always either wish my saison is a) more funky or b) more tart. Libertine finds a balance of keeping this unique saison separate from everyone else and unique. If you haven't tried it yet, I highly recommend seeking it out.
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  21. fmccormi

    fmccormi Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2010 California

    First, I love saisons, so I'm into this thread.

    Second, I don't necessarily agree with the unqualified statement that Europe "crushes it" when it comes to saisons. The vast majority of classic, highly regarded saisons may have and do come from Europe, but American saison production has really flourished especially in the last five years and there appears to be no end in sight, so the game is changing. DuPont is still DuPont and always will be, but American saisons are getting insanely good, more and more available, and doing things that European saisons aren't*.

    And finally, I often say this but it's worth discussing two different strains of American-made saisons: classically-styled, non-wild saisons (Hennepin, Tank 7, Sorachi Ace, Helios, etc.) in one sub-category, and funky or otherwise experimental saisons (Prairie, Jester King, Side Project, Hill Farmstead) in another.

    *And yes, of course I recognize there are exceptions. These are just broad generalizations.
  22. southdenverhoo

    southdenverhoo Devotee (403) Aug 13, 2004 Colorado

    I thought Helios was a brett saison, is that not what is meant by "wild"? It's getting so ubiquitous and accordingly well known and predictable-- domesticated & therefore no longer "wild"--that I could understand that. Or am I mistaken about brett in Helios?

    But I think your categorization makes sense.
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  23. denver10

    denver10 Poo-Bah (2,956) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico

    Forgot about about Opal.....that definitely should have been on my list.
  24. Dansac

    Dansac Initiate (138) Dec 6, 2014 California

    Sante Adairius - Bernice

    Hill Farmstead - Ann / Art

    Anchorage - Rondy Brew

    Grassroots - Brother Soigne

    Crooked Stave - Surette

    Prarie - Merica

    De Garde - Saison Premiere

    Tired Hands - HandFarm

    Side Project - Saison du Fermier
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  25. fmccormi

    fmccormi Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2010 California

    Actually, I think you're right--scratch that one. It's still a great beer, and I think it might be pasteurized and/or filtered prior to bottling (though I could be wrong about that, too). Man, I wish they'd put it in sixers.
  26. SquarePeg22

    SquarePeg22 Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Loved Burning Rosids. Tank 7 is up there for me as well.
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  27. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    Crooked Stave
  28. Denver_Beer_Guy

    Denver_Beer_Guy Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2013 Colorado

    My favs:

    Crooked Stave Surette
    River North J Marie
    Bruery Saison Rue
    Jester King Das Wunderkind
    Boulevard Saison Brett
  29. JimmyTheDook

    JimmyTheDook Initiate (23) Oct 27, 2011 Texas

    Tank 7

    are my favorites
  30. zid

    zid Meyvn (1,263) Feb 15, 2010 New York

    It sure sounds like you are knocking the others! Perhaps someone can simply like a different saison than you. :slight_smile:
    I've liked the small amount of Hill Farmstead saisons I've had and I'd happily drink them again, but I'm also happy playing little league with the saisons I like more. There is far less pressure to use performance enhancing drugs in little league and that suits me well.

    I can't tell you what beers are "above" another, but I just don't look at the picture that way. A good amount of my favorite saisons are from Europe, and I have yet to try an American beer that can substitute for these. Why don't you look to Shaun Hill to see what you might be "missing?" Here he is describing his favorite:
    Personally, I find the beers made at Brasserie de Blaugies to be delicious. @Plower , based on your other posts, you seem to have some internal conflict regarding brewery reputations. I'm being very presumptuous, but if it's honest, that's not necessarily a bad thing. :slight_smile:

    (All of my favorite US saisons have already been mentioned in the thread.)
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  31. johnjohnbeer

    johnjohnbeer Initiate (145) Oct 27, 2012 Ohio

    Shaun Hill
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  32. Domingo

    Domingo Poo-Bah (2,685) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado

    Hill Farmstead...assuming you feel like going through the trouble to get it.
    For the ones with a bit more availability, I like the normal saison from Funkwerks and just about anything from Crooked Stave and Casey. Trinity might be run by a bunch of lunatics, but they have some excellents ones, too.
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  33. Canada_Dan

    Canada_Dan Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2013 Colorado

    Colorado is killing it with the saisons

    Casey Brewing and Blending
    Crooked Stave

    Love em!

    Hill Farmstead is okay too
  34. TheFightfan1

    TheFightfan1 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2008 Pennsylvania

    My personal favorites,
    Saison Athene
    Tank 7
    Handfarm, or pretty much anything coming from Tired Hands in this category.
  35. Prospero

    Prospero Savant (970) Jul 27, 2010 Colorado

    Crooked Stave
    Hill Farmstead
    Side Project

    Honorable mentions: de Garde, Tired Hands, Jester King, Lost Nation, Funkwerks, Stillwater, Boulevard
  36. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    do you even 'tome bro?
  37. BoldRulerVT

    BoldRulerVT Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2013 Vermont

    Grassroots Brother Soigne. Bomb diggity.
  38. Plower

    Plower Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2014 Texas

    No need to be a wise guy. Is anyone going to show me or LINK the European Saison that is on par with Hill Farmstead stuff? I fly from Texas to Boston, then drive to Vermont to get Hill Farmstead. That's because I'm willing to put some money in this game to play with the big boys, the brewers who are the franchise players in this game. When you guys say European Saison crushes American Saison you are spitting not only in the face of American brewers but also myself. If Europe had such amazing saisons I'm sure I'd have heard of them and have been flying there instead.
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  39. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    Pretty much my list to a T.

    Have been increasingly impressed with Casey's East Bank and Saison. They're becoming much more recognized and rightly so.

    Funkwerks is another locally accessible favorite along with Crooked Stave. Also find myself regularly picking up Goose Island's Sofie.
  40. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    Plenty of "franchise players" don't require a six-hour flight followed by a four-hour drive.

    And if you really wanted to "put some money in this game", a flight to Europe makes a flight to Boston and drive to Vermont look like chump change. :grinning:

    That said, I have no opinion on whether or not American or European saisons are better. I like both.
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