Best Bittering Hop

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  1. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    Amarillo hops work very well with Citra in my experience. My other favorites for bittering include columbus, centennial and chinook.
     
  2. coronajm

    coronajm Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2010 Ohio

    I have never heard or seen reference to temperature increase under high krausen. Makes a fair amount of sense and seems like a pretty important tidbit. I will look into this. Thanks
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Fermentation is exothermic in general (not just a high krausen). But the more active, the more exothermic.
     
  4. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Back on topic...

    Any bittering hops to avoid b/c they're too harsh?
    Cohumulone allegedly plays a role.
    What's the threshold?
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Hops high in Cohumulone are said by some to impart a 'harsher' bitterness, and 25% or 30% Cohumulone (as a percentage of total Alpha Acids) are sometimes said to be where the harsh effect becomes noticeable. So if you subscribe to this idea, avoid bittering hops where cohumulone is greater than 25%. This would eliminate a lot of the commonly used american hops. Personally I don't worry about it.
     
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  6. geezerpk

    geezerpk Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2010 South Carolina

    I'm partial to Columbus. It works pretty good for bittering, flavoring, aroma, and dry hopping. Plus, the price and availability make it even more attractive. I'm of the KISS school of brewing.
     
  7. mugs1789

    mugs1789 Zealot (611) Dec 6, 2005 Maryland

    Last year I bought a pound of magnum so I used magnum for all my bittering needs. I was very happy w/ magnum but I just ran out. I'll probably try something else this year just to mix things up.

    So, I can strongly recommend magnum as a bittering hop.
     
  8. doughanson78

    doughanson78 Savant (1,103) May 28, 2011 Washington

  9. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Cascade cohumulone ranges between 35 and 40.
    Anyone think bittering w/Cascade makes for a harsh brew?
     
  10. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    I do, I have never been a fan of cascades as a bittering addition.
     
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  11. Jettpower

    Jettpower Devotee (323) Feb 9, 2007 California

    You also have about 17% of your malt bill as crystal malt. Crystal malt is less fermentable and will leave behind sweetness. 17% crystal is typically viewed as far to much for a DIPA. That coupled with your extract and lack of added dextrose contributed to an overly sweet beer. Try limiting your crystal to less than 10% next time.
     
  12. doughanson78

    doughanson78 Savant (1,103) May 28, 2011 Washington

    Thanks. I went with an IPA this time. Added about 3/4 of a pound of table sugar from a previous tip. Hopefully this turns out better.
     
  13. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    I've bittered with cascades a few times and have never been particularly impressed with the results.
     
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  14. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    I have made all Cascade brews several times. I tend to agree with HB42 with that the bittering quality is not all that great with just Cascades, if one is shooting for an American IPA or PA.
     
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  15. coreylag

    coreylag Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2011 Washington

    Warrior or magnum...the only way to go for big IPA's! I would avoid the Crystal malt, and in the last 10 min of boil dump 1lb of corn sugar. Oxygenate, oxygenate, oxygenate and then throw the farm at it with Wyeast 1056 for 5 gal batch...at least 3 smack packs......
     
  16. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    IIRC, Pacific Gem has Cohumulone levels at close to 40%, but I've been loving them as a bittering hop lately, after using them as a bittering addition in a mild, biere de garde, IPA, and two very different porters in the past few months. It has a real swagger to it; it'll fill your mouth with a broad bitterness, but it isn't rough at all.
     
  17. ianmatth

    ianmatth Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2013 New Jersey

    I like CTZ much better than Magnum for bittering IPAs, Magnum just doesn't seem to have enough character for me. I'm running some experiments with 1 gallon batches to see what I like better. I brewed both a Warrior and a Bravo IPA last night. Late additions were all the same (mixed Citra, Simcoe, Centennial, Amarillo, Nelson Sauvin, and El Dorado together and added at 20, 15, 10, 5, 2, and 0). I used 2.5 oz total hops for each 1 gallon batch, good thing I did too because I lost too much water to boil off and had to add 4 cups of water at the end to get gravity down to around 1.060, partial boils kill IBUs. I'm using WLP090, I've never failed to get 80+% attenuation on 1.060+ OG batches in 3-4 days with that, even when using extract.
     
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  18. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Horizon is also a clean bittering hop.

    Some beers I make use Cluster for bittering. It has a nice black currant flavor if not too old. Some hops do have a flavor contribution when used at 60 min.
     
  19. jlpred55

    jlpred55 Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2006 Iowa

    Im a big fan if Millennium for bittering. It's very mild and pleasant.
     
  20. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    You used two pounds of crystal malt and no sugar in a IIPA. That's a lot of crystal malt, especially given that the extract should have some crystal in it too. I'm certainly not one of those people who think every IPA or IIPA should be crystal malt free and dry as a bone from tons off added sugar, but your recipe had "Sweet, almost to the point of cloying" built into it from the start. A little sugar is good for a DIPA, as well as less than two pounds of crystal.

    EDIT: just saw the date on the OP, lol.

    Well for bittering I haven't played around enough to know for sure, so I've been using whatever high AA hops I have handy, usually belma or bravo, columbus a few times. I'm about to open a bag of magnum, so we'll see where that takes us. I would say that anything lower AA doesn't seem to do as good of a job, even if you use an equivalent amount of AA worth of the weaker hop. 11%+ seems to be much better, although exactly which one is best probably boils at least partly down to taste.

    I would agree that cascade as a bittering hop is less than optimal, it's more of a flavor and aroma hop.
     
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