Best home brewing or pilot brewing system?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by NickH44, Jul 8, 2014.

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  1. NickH44

    NickH44 Initiate (0) May 13, 2009 Washington

    Looking at Sabco BrewMagic, or morebeer's brew sculptures. Anyone have any info or experience with these or have a better whole grain pilot system? Not looking to build my own, want to buy something that's more turn-key, so to speak.
     
  2. Slatetank

    Slatetank Grand Pooh-Bah (3,713) Oct 9, 2006 Pennsylvania
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  3. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    How many gallon boils you looking to do?
     
  4. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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  5. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    I've brewed on all of them. It really depends on what you want.

    TopTier is good for 10 gallon batches if you can tolerate not having a single tier system. If you want to automate the TopTier then the cost definitely starts approaching the other systems. I haven't used a Blichmann Brew Easy system, but that would probably be the system I'd consider if leaning toward Blichmann.

    Sabco is nice for RIMS and hard plumbing, but the Chill Wizard frustrates me and I absolutely hate brewing with those keggles / fermenting with those ridiculously expensive keggle fermenters. Don't get suckered by the whole Sabco "save your recipe" bs as it isn't hard if you can take notes and aren't an idiot. If you are planning on spending this much money on homebrewing, I'd hope you can take notes and aren't an idiot.

    Morebeer Brew Sculpture would be my choice hands down if you wanted the larger set up (26g kettles I believe for 20g batches). It's kind of pricy if going for the 10g setup. Morebeer 10g system is a good system to brew on, but not nearly as good of a value as the 20g setup. Oh and if you are going to plunk some serious coin on the Morebeer setup, make sure to get the stainless frame version. Small price to pay for a system that will last much longer.

    P.S. Keep in mind that, while all parts are important, the "hot side" of brewing is the easy part. It can be accomplished very well with a cheap system. The bells and whistles are really only convenience and consistency improvements. If you don't already have a solid "cold side" set up (stir plates, temperature controlled fermentation chambers, etc), spend the money on that first.
     
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  6. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    I'd lean toward the Morebeer systems as well, after considering koopa's advice. Controlling your fermentation is about 95% of making good beer and a fancy brew day setup doesn't contribute much toward that goal (except for being able to chill quickly). A tightly controlled mash is important too but you can get that on a stovetop system with a little attention to detail.

    Get a 15-20 gallon system unless you have a fondness for boilovers. It's also handy if you get drafted to make a lot of beer for a wedding or something.
     
  7. bcoyle

    bcoyle Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2011 Massachusetts

    I would have to agree with Koopa, spend the money on the "cold side" first. Cntrolling phenols, oxygen, and fermentation temps when fermenting and, as we will know that is where 80%+ of your flavor comes from, is far more important. (IMHO)
     
  8. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    don't overlook ruby street or psycho brew systems as well. That said, the tipy-dump system is pretty sweet...would probably go towards morebeer system as well, but i love my boilermakers too!
    If this is a pilot system for a brewery...I was just talking with some brewers at Harpoon yesterday and they were talking about hopefully building a pilot brewery with steam coils plumbed into the system. That is ideal imo, reach strike temp and boil in no time flat.
     
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  9. Skywave

    Skywave Pooh-Bah (2,353) Feb 28, 2002 Oklahoma
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    High Gravity has some good electric brewery options.
     
  10. Mantooth

    Mantooth Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2011 North Carolina

    I'm going with the Alpha Ruby 1 barrel system - tremendous bang for the buck & you can brew a true barrel. About $4,300 ready to rock - add a herms system, digital controller and a chill plate and you're looking at about $7,000.

    http://www.rubystreetbrewing.com/tp60/page.asp?ID=299440
     
  11. harryhood1

    harryhood1 Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I couldn't possibly be happier with the Sabco Brew Magic. It is a boss system.
     
  12. randal

    randal Initiate (0) Apr 21, 2004 Colorado

    My morebeer 1550 10 gallon sculpture is going on about 5 years with little to no problems and I use it almost every weekend.
     
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Good advice. Hot side needs can be satisfied with a minimalist BIAB setup.
     
  14. WertMaker

    WertMaker Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2009 Oregon

    My MoreBeer 2050 Tippy makes everything I want to make right up to the High Gravity stuff. Nice big mash tun and boil kettle. The hot liquor tank gives you plenty of sparge water. Mine is 100% manual and I got it used for less than $3K.
     
  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Ruby street system is pretty rad. Or build it for half the price.
     
  16. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The More Beer systems are used by many pros on the West Coast. DFH has the Brew Magic, and a new one at the production brewery. There are a few Blichmann's in the Midwest, and some nanos have Blichmann's as the brew house. I am seeing more Psychobrew stuff around.

    They all make beer. Decide what features you need, find one that matches your budget. Don't overlook getting a premium mill to feed that system. The cold side advice is golden. You will also want to have some place to put the finished beer, so a keg going set up should be considered.
     
  17. Leuschke

    Leuschke Initiate (0) Feb 12, 2016

    To date building my custom eherms system to fit my requirements has been one of the most enjoyable and exciting times in this over grown hobby. The Electric Brewery is a great website to reference, especially if you ware going to build your own controller.
     
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