Beyond Beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BigIronH, May 27, 2021.

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  1. Longhorn08

    Longhorn08 Savant (1,109) Feb 4, 2014 Texas
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    Chimay makes cheese.
     
  2. oldmankoch

    oldmankoch Maven (1,299) Jan 1, 2014 Utah

    I chiMay just need to go searching for this! Our house loves all things cheese.

    *Found it for a descent price too!*
     
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  3. HoppingMadMonk

    HoppingMadMonk Grand Pooh-Bah (5,208) Mar 3, 2017 New Jersey
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    Was at a new jersey brewery, south 40 and I believe it was there i got some dog treats. They made them from leftover mash and my dog loved them. Have seen other breweries do this as well
     
  4. Longhorn08

    Longhorn08 Savant (1,109) Feb 4, 2014 Texas
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    We do as well. I love the beer but my personal taste was not so much for the cheese. My wife and I tried it with plain wafers and Chimay Blue, think we tried it twice, just wasn’t our flavor. But we do like beer and cheese, it can be a meal.
     
  5. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    Man that sounds awesome. What a way to recycle used ingredients. Especially if the dogs actually like them. I’m gonna have to keep an eye out for something like this in my area.
     
  6. JLK7299

    JLK7299 Pooh-Bah (2,825) Apr 21, 2016 North Carolina
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  7. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    There are a few breweries here in Michigan that also have a distillery, and they are making hand sanitizer because of the need for protection from those nasty COVID germs and the shortage of independent brands of sanitizer when COVID first started. I don't know if they're still making the stuff or not since the pandemic seems to be winding down now.
     
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  8. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    I had heard about that and the wife actually ordered some from a distillery in Traverse City just to collect. They came in corked glass bottles just like the whiskey.
     
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  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I think New Holland is the only sanitizer product that I've actually seen, others I have only read about but don't recall names.

    My doctor's office uses a product that smell very strongly of tequila, but they put it into a generic pump bottle so there is no chance of seeing a manufacturer's label. I didn't ask for a source name, but it made me wonder if some micro-distillery was using the real stuff before cutting it with water to maintain the required ABV for use as a sanitizer.
     
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  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    "Cut it" ? The FDA suggested "at least 60% alcohol" for hand sanitizer, that'd be +120 Proof. I imagine most commercial Tequilas are under that (but have no idea what the final distillation abv is).
     
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  11. Longhorn08

    Longhorn08 Savant (1,109) Feb 4, 2014 Texas
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    Ranger Creek here in San Antonio is also a distillery. Their whiskey isn’t bad.
     
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  12. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    My understanding of the distillation process is that the alcohol level that comes from the process approaches 100% (200 proof) depending on the efficiency of the system and impurities that get into the final liquid. Then the liquid is cut with water to reach the desired proof of the final product, usually around 80-90 proof (40-45 percent abv) or 60 % for hand sanitizer. Is my understanding wrong?

    (Sorry to get off topic, folks.)
     
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  13. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I would think that most of these things are either licensed by the brewer, co-branded with the actual producer of the goods, or outright co-packed by/for the brewery. Dogfishhead - they had sausages out in the market and they were damned good, but they sure as heck weren't making them at the brewery. I've seen lots of cheeses that say "made with" and a few carrying the brewery logo, but again they aren't being made at a brewery - cheese especially. The equipment and processes are quite different, and the regulations are on a different planet versus the typical brewery. Of course, a decent sized brewery would be able to buy the capability. It can't be highly profitable (CPG is pretty low margin), but it does create visibility for the name in a different consumer space.

    I've even seen bar soap and scented candles with a beer brand on it - doubt those are being made in a brewery. And a lot of these things seem ephemeral - the DFH sausage, man we ate a ton of them not because DFH but because they were great on the grill. The shark logo got us to try them on a what the hell, but if they had sucked we would have been one and done, have a nice day. We've had some "made with" XYZ beer cheeses that were heinous, and some that were awesome. Product development isn't always "mix this and that and it's gonna be super delicious" - it's a two edged sword. There is always the risk that there could be something out there (maybe codeveloped or licensed or whatever) with your brand logo stuck on it that is a lousy product. But I do think the point of the whole thing is brand visibility and recognition, not necessarily creating a huge revenue stream.

    One cool thing is the spent grains - a few have jumped on this (pet food and people food) and were making it work at least until C-19 struck. One local young entrepreneur I ran into at a Whole Foods started with a few hundred pounds a week making crackers and snack bits that were pretty tasty. He did say it was tough as the scale increased - managing the spent grain before it grew mold was a real problem. It was obvious that he hadn't really thought things through as far as supply chain/production went (tried to go too big to fast - intentionally or not). That's not really extending anybody's brand from the brewery perspective (unless the product said "made with Brewery X Spent Grain"), but it's "up-purposing" a byproduct, and I've seen quite a few "mom and pop" (or brewer's relatives) outfits making spent grain bread or pet treats (hopefully hop free) at cottage industry scale directly tied to a brewery.
     
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  14. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    Yeah I think everyone is in agreement that most of this stuff is licensed. Whatever isn’t, is most likely for sale at the brewery only. Like you said, regulations for getting this stuff on a store shelf are tough.
     
  15. bret27

    bret27 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,064) Mar 10, 2009 California
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    They’ve got a line of Smooj as well.
     
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  16. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    Lol yes they do. I don’t care for it but a lot of people do. It was the first really well known “smoothie seltzer” at least in these parts. Pioneers of the variety if you will.:joy:
     
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  17. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    There used to be a brew pub locally that made flour for their pizzas with spent grains. The beer was OK but the pizza was pretty good.
     
  18. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
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    I bet it was. That crust had to be mighty complex flavor wise.
     
  19. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Came here to say the same. Love all the Chimays, and I was a cheese lover, but even with multiple tries I found the cheese unpleasant.
     
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  20. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I'm sorry, but that sounds godawful. New ideas aren't always good ideas.
     
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