Biggest beer pet peeves

Yeah, put that beer on a boring-ass napkin. Or the table!!!

 

My biggest peeve: discovering that a beer labeled as a pale ale is more bitter than many IPAs.

 

Thats because they sold themselves and seem to have zero say in the brewery anymore. Great that they made shit tons of money but the price of their beer has gone up pretty fast since the sale and the beer is just being churned out one after another and they are just ok to not great and at $14 a six I stopped buying anything but the core stuff and only when its on sale.

Again, great that they cashed in but a brewery I loved, I had a keg of Hop Devil at my wedding in 1996, is now a brewery I really dont care about.

Enjoy

 

Adjuncts are unmalted grains (such as corn, rice, rye, oats, barley, and wheat[1]) or grain products used in brewing beer which supplement the main mash ingredient (such as malted barley), often with the intention of cutting costs, but sometimes to create an additional feature, such as better foam retention, flavours or nutritional value or additives. Both solid and liquid adjuncts are commonly used.

ad·junct
ˈaˌjəNGkt/
noun

1. 1.
   a thing added to something else as a supplementary rather than an essential part.
   "computer technology is an adjunct to learning"
   synonyms: supplement, addition, extra, add-on, accessory, accompaniment, complement, appurtenance; More

Both are correct when used appropriately.

I love American Adjunct Ales!
I love grapefruit as an adjunct in my beers!

Sorry, @TongoRad

 

Are there any that do it?

 

When your wife, who is usually pretty good about handling your beer obsession, gives you the stink eye when you suggest, again, that you want to go some place across town to try something. Annoying...

 

You did see that we solved this dilemma on the previous page, right?

 

I actually disagree with this. Like, completely. Someone new to wine really should not be drinking an extremely rare bottle. Someone new to bourbon does not really need to be drinking an extremely rare bourbon. And someone new to craft has no business drinking KBBS.

For the record, when I say new, I am saying SO new with SUCH limited experience and SO little care for even being able to take the time to try to understand and take in what they are drinking. When people are new, they just try it, and say "that's good." After you have been into something for awhile, you can appreciate what you are drinking. To someone so new, there's almost no difference between something that is a 90 vs something that is a perfect 100.

Maybe that was not your point. Also, not trying to be rude, just politely disagree.

 

OK, I've been into craft long enough to appreciate KBBS. Now I need to get my hands on one. If you see a newbie about ready to open a KBBS, confiscate it and send it to me.

 

Oops, I must not have made it back that far. Glad to hear it's resolved. I'll check it out tonight. The only thing left now is deciding the best IPA and if NEIPA should be it's open category, right? I'd hate to miss it if we solve that too.

 

I cringe at the idea of beer pedigree. Sure, first tries can be jarring, but spare me the idea that one needs a sophisticated palette to enjoy KBBS. That you say "no business" is absurd, to me. Moreover, that you believe BA ratings are finite, and that there aren't heavily swayed by the reviews that come before is a bit strange to me. There is no objective difference between a beer rated 100 and one that is rated 90. Proof to that is a simple look at the top 50 beers here, and the number of styles represented. If there were such a thing is beer pedigree then surely the rankings would reflect a much broader array of styles appreciated.

 

I have similar feelings, and Prima is really the only beer that I routinely by from them, and one which I feel still tastes as it always has.

 

Respectfully, I think you miss my point entirely.

I'm not trying to suggest that a pedigree is needed to enjoy, what I am trying to say is that it's a waste of time if you don't have something to compare it to.

What's the point of consuming a $200 shot of Remy Martin Louis if you have no idea what substitutes at the $10/shot price is? All you can say it's good.

Am I saying that a first time craft individual should not enter the lotteries like KBBS? No. I'm saying that consuming it without a reference point is pointless. All you can say is "that's good." You need an anchor point.

 

You can also add that when moving into almost any new area, it takes time and experience to develop that anchor point. So there is learning over time involved.

In addition, with time, and experience one can learn to distiguish and detect subtleties that are not apparent to the beginner. ( I.e., there really is such a thing as expertise and experts are made, not born. )

 

Ahhh, where did you obtain your training in statistics?

 

A few things to keep track of here.

Changes in the Victory line up and offerings as well as pricing changes were showing up before the sale.

They "sold themselves" at least partly to themselves. (The brewery founders never did have complete ownership anyway so the creation of ABV allowed some of the prior owners to cash in if they chose and replaced them with new ownership shares. While leaving the founders of the brewery both with an ownership stake and a role in decision making about how the brewery and business are to be run.)

 

The former may never make it out of committee, but the latter at least has a chance .

 

I've been in market research for 21 years.

 

The idea of beer consumer experts goes against what beer is...in my humble opinion

 

I would respectively argue that you are again missing the point.

Wine somelier's have exquisite palate's - they are far better than even those that have above average ones. Some rare and exquisite beers/wine/liquor are so valued not just because they are rare, but because of what they offer. There is nuance. If you have no reference point - or if your palate is completely lacking in an ability to discern - there's very little to be gained in terms of the value of consuming an extremely nuanced item. For me, I have extreme sensitivity to bitterness. I cannot get anywhere near as many flavors and complexities as others are. As a result, regular stouts - being much more bitter than their BA counter parts - are essentially not worth it for me to chase. It won't be as enjoyable for me as those people that can taste everything. Hence, I don't value a - say Henna - at the value it currently sits, but I would value a Vanilla rye at that same value, even if the market suggest they might be similar.