Binge Drinking

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  1. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Poo-Bah (2,552) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona

    for binge, isn't it 5 drink units in 2 hours?
    http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/binge-drinking.htm

    A 16 oz pint of 7% IPA is about 1.8 drink units. So, 3 pints of IPA at the pub in 2 hours is over the limit.
    A 12 oz bottle of 7% IPA is about 1.3 drink units. So, around 4 bottles of IPA in 2 hours is over.
     
  2. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Zealot (531) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois

    It's only binge drinking when beerbongs, kegstands and Jello shots become involved.
     
  3. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Meyvn (1,056) Mar 1, 2009 California

    When doing some above average beer drinking, keep the shots and hard booze out of the equasion.
     
  4. Andrew041180

    Andrew041180 Defender (651) Mar 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    I had that thought the other day when I saw someone post a picture of a 10%+ bomber that he had opened while waiting to take a family member on a presumably long drive. I don't know if he shared it with someone so I am omitting most of the details, but from the information presented in the post I was a bit surprised.
     
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  5. Fox82791

    Fox82791 Devotee (465) Jun 20, 2014 New York
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    Wow that's different from what I learned in health class a few years ago lol. 5 "drink units" in 2 hours seems quite strict
     
  6. LittleDog

    LittleDog Initiate (144) Dec 19, 2014 Texas
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    Those are pretty "USA-wide." Look who is making those recommendations. Follow the money. Now if Jack Daniels were making the recommendations, I bet the guidelines would be very different.
     
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  7. rozzom

    rozzom Champion (854) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    By my standards, binge drinking is something that happens very infrequently these days.

    By cdc standards it sounds like it happens fairly often......
     
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  8. warrendietrich2001

    warrendietrich2001 Savant (921) Feb 13, 2013 Nevada
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    I used to drink 9 beers of Sierra at a time in my yonger days. Now I feel like crap if I drink more than two Pliny in an evening. Hangovers is one reason I am so into craft beer. I can get one or two high alochol beers that taste incredible sip them over the course of a few hours and feel fine the next morning. When you pay over $10 a bottle for something you are not going to chug it and move on to the next one.
     
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  9. Uniobrew31

    Uniobrew31 Zealot (514) Jan 16, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    The CDC considers "Moderate drinking" up to two beers per day for men. Three or four per day is considered excessive.
    http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/faqs.htm#moderateDrinking
     
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  10. marquis

    marquis Crusader (792) Nov 20, 2005 United Kingdom (England)

    There seems to be some confusion between heavy drinking and binge drinking.
    A heavy drinker is, surprisingly enough, one who imbibes a lot of alcohol during the week. The guys I mentioned in my previous post drink several Imperial pints every lunchtime and every evening.That isn't binge drinking.They don't drink to get drunk or even a buzz.They remain functional and rational.But they do drink several times the recommended guidelines for alcohol consumption.They are not binge drinkers.
    Binge drinking is drinking large amounts for the sake of doing so.For the buzz and getting drunk.
     
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  11. ToadiesForCody

    ToadiesForCody Aspirant (281) Oct 30, 2013 Minnesota
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    Different strokes for different folks so long as you have a job a happy family and aren't driving.
     
  12. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Meyvn (1,383) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania

    From what I understand Binge drinking is consuming alcohol as rapidly as possible and with the sole intention of getting drunk. I have seen some numbers posted here for what constituted binge drinking but it will vary from person to person based on factors like weight and tolerance.

    There is a big difference between drinking 4 or 5 big beers over the course of an evening and ending up drunk compared to chugging the same amount in an hour or two.
     
  13. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Poo-Bah (2,326) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey
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    Binge drinking is what other people do,
    I am zealously enjoying my hobby!
    Cheers
     
  14. bleakies

    bleakies Disciple (364) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    It's only binge drinking if you don't do it everyday.
     
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  15. frozen-1984

    frozen-1984 Initiate (158) Dec 25, 2014 Colorado

    I drink daily but I still cut it at the point of a good buzz on work nights. If I have the next day off I will usually have a couple extra but getting shit faced Is not much fun anymore.
     
  16. ChicagoGuy

    ChicagoGuy Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2014 Illinois

    In my short stint as a BA member, I've posted two pics in the "latest haul" thread–one in late November, one a few days ago–but if you went down to my basement right now, you'd see most of those beers still down there, either boxed up (a.k.a. "being cellared") or gathering a fine layer of dust while awaiting an occasion to be opened. My problem tends to be that I'm more of a collector than a drinker.

    My intake used to be comprised of a couple bourbons, 2-3 beers, or a generous cocktail 3-4 nights per week, plus 1 night per week of what would definitely fall under the "binge drinking" category (usually mixed drinks at a corner bar, or cocktails at a craft cocktail bar). It was unhealthy, expensive, and painful the next day.

    Since getting into good beer, I'm drinking less than I ever did before...now I have 6-12oz of beer 2-3 nights per week, plus 1-2 nights per month were I'll go out and have 2-3 beers (4-12oz pours each, depending what I order). With better beers, my imbibing slowwwwws down, because my focus is on the flavor & the experience, not on pounding it as quickly as possible...when my wife & I split a BCBS bottle, I find it takes me about an hour to finish my 6oz. And now that every corner pub & sports bar is serving craft beer, I've found that I can order some very decent sippin' beers just about everywhere I go.

    Well, one other caveat: I have young kids, so I generally don't have the energy to stay up too much later than their bedtime, and don't have the freedom to nurse a hungover the next day, so when I do have a beer, it's during dinner & while they're putzing around after dinner. I'm hoping this has the added bonus of teaching them that beer is a delicious beverage that you savor responsibly in moderation. Hopefully that lesson will serve as a contrast to the chugging/shotgunning/bonging/keg-stand/"Edward 40-hands" stuff they'll no doubt see in college.
     
  17. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Poo-Bah (2,552) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona

    Or heavy beer drinkers on beer forums :slight_frown:

    A couple DIPA pints, couple regular IPA pints, 2 hours... nah, can't be a binge. :rolling_eyes:
     
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  18. TooGood

    TooGood Crusader (709) Jan 28, 2014 Minnesota

    Hate hangovers, 1-3 beers in day is plenty for me. Quality over quantity.
     
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  19. _RL_

    _RL_ Disciple (350) Oct 2, 2013 Maryland
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    I think this is about right and, as others have said 1) I'm too old to drink much more and 2) I can't really appreciate beer much after about two beers unless I really pace myself. I would rather enjoy my beer and feel good the next day.
     
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  20. RichardMNixon

    RichardMNixon Devotee (456) Jun 24, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    A 19.2 oz imperial pint of 3.2% mild is about 1.0 drink units. So, around 5 imperial pints of mild in 2 hours is over.
     
  21. utopiajane

    utopiajane Poo-Bah (2,556) Jun 11, 2013 New York

    I have to admit i thought about it as I gained some weight last year. I am firmly of the mind that putting that beer before lunch or dinner ( even if you do it to ensure a little buzz) is not binge drinking. I thinkof it like the fellows I used to know in college who would go out and get a case of beer just to slam one after the other until they were passed out. Now us beer advocates . . .we go out hunting for this beer or that beer, we go out looking for what is fresh, what is "hot", what is highly rated . . . but we don't go out looking for a case of beer so we can slam them all in one night. We stage our pours, we choose our glassware and we photograph the beer, the meal and then go ahead and give our tasting notes on our ceremonious one or two beers each day. Thtat's love drinking not binge drinking.
     
  22. Beer-Revelry

    Beer-Revelry Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2015 Texas

    For me, a normal day would consist of 1 or 2 12oz bottles and sometimes 1 22oz bomber. Drunkenness, to me, is not a goal but rather a pleasant side-effect :wink:
     
  23. AricGresko

    AricGresko Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Binge drinking was fun with my high school friends when we first started drinking and were idiots and just drinking cheap beer.

    Now that I'm into craft beer, its a max of 3 beers and that's in a long sitting and only special bar occasions. Normally it's just 1 beer casually if I'm home. I really like when bars have the 5 oz sampler size because I'll get either 3 beers at 5 oz or 1 normal sized beer and a wild card beer I want to really try in the 5 oz serving.
     
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  24. parrotsnest

    parrotsnest Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2010 Washington

    How else will they justify the price of admittance?
     
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  25. Pantalones

    Pantalones Devotee (450) Nov 14, 2014 Virginia

    Moderation seems to come naturally to me. I rarely have more than 1 or 2 beers (12 ounce bottle or draft) at a time, and once I've had that much I usually feel like I'm done (there have been times where I debated having a third, but always decided against it.)

    There was one time when I first started drinking, before I got into beer at all, when I had three Johnny Appleseed hard ciders in a row (I think 5.7% ABV?) and the result was not at all pleasant (I got really dizzy and really sleepy, went to bed at 10 PM and could actually fall asleep when usually I don't go to bed until 2 AM or so... thankfully didn't get sick or anything at all, but I still wouldn't want to drink this much all at once again.) Having that mostly-bad experience (it was kinda nice to be awake at 7 AM the next day to go for a walk in the cool morning weather for once, so there's one upside... XD) as my first experience with any more-than-usual drinking probably makes the decision to not have a third beer (or second of a higher-abv beer) a lot easier.

    I think the most (in terms of alcohol content) that I've had in one sitting since then has been a bomber of 6.9% abv beer, which brought me firmly into "warm and fuzzy" territory but thankfully not quite far enough to reach that unpleasant "dizzy and sleepy" stage.

    I can't really see the appeal of drinking beyond the point of "strong buzz/tipsy/warm and fuzzy drunkish." It's just not a good feeling after that point, for me at least... and I've never even gone so far as to get sick or black out or anything crazy like that, so I can't imagine how bad it must be if you do go that far.

    Maybe some Mormons? I've known some who thought that looking at porn ever was pretty much the same thing as a full-blown porn addiction, so it's not too much of a stretch to picture somebody having the same attitude toward alcohol.
     
  26. NYR-Zuuuuc

    NYR-Zuuuuc Zealot (584) Jan 1, 2013 Connecticut
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    This is kind of a "Buzz Killington" of posts...huh?
     
  27. CellarGimp

    CellarGimp Initiate (0) Sep 14, 2011 Missouri

    From Friday night through Saturday night, anything goes. The rest of the time I am sober as a judge.
     
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  28. _-_-Jason-_-_

    _-_-Jason-_-_ Initiate (0) Dec 18, 2014 New York

    I'm sort of the opposite... from Saturday night through Friday night, anything goes. No kids, and I don't drive when drinking.
     
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  29. AnthonyRicciardi

    AnthonyRicciardi Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2015 New York

    Reading through this thread has confirmed what I already knew which is that everyone has their own definition of what binge drinking is and what is considered an acceptable amount. Since I didn't state this in my original post, I will say that I rarely drink to get drunk and conciously make a point to stick with a 2 beers a day maximum. Maybe 3 depending on what I'm drinking. Nonetheless I've enjoyed this thread thoroughly.
     
  30. CB_Michigan

    CB_Michigan Disciple (369) Sep 4, 2014 Illinois
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    It's an interesting question, and it's nice that the conversation has been civilized. I've seen this come up at bottle shares where everyone is pulling out the big guns with over-the-top ABV levels. Then, once everyone's had their little tastes, someone will pull out something else, then another something else, and after a while all those small servings add up. Personally, my days of overindulging are behind me. Even when we're hosting, I limit myself to 4 drinks. It's not worth the calories or the potential headaches or just the feeling of not being in control.

    To be fair, though, it's not just a craft beer thing. I've seen the same thing happen with wine and bourbon enthusiasts. I went to a dinner once where 6 of us consumed 9 bottles. Granted, it was a long and drawn out dinner, but that's still a LOT of consumption going on. And that level of drinking isn't necessarily unusual. Some guys I know do it every couple of weeks.

    I feel like there's always some degree of rationalization involved in these types of hobbies, but I've seen how it can get ugly and become an excuse that justifies a host of unhealthy behaviors. Luckily, my beer friends are better about sticking to limits and making sure that things don't get out of hand.
     
  31. Lukass

    Lukass Savant (971) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio

    Never thought of that... Good point!
     
  32. Irishize75

    Irishize75 Initiate (0) Nov 4, 2012 California

    Addictive personality here. I never met a substance I didn't like, which caused some problems in my younger days. Now I'm a beer-only guy, but the only way I could keep that in check was to make it my Friday night ritual. I gave my wife free reign to bust my balls if she sees me drinking any other time. Works for me. Downside is obvious--I only drink once a week. Upside is simple economics..I feel no guilt about buying delicious yet overpriced $20-$30 bombers on a regular basis since that will likely be my entire weekly intake :sunglasses:
     
  33. Glutens

    Glutens Initiate (63) Jan 21, 2015 New York

    I think 4 or more in a sitting / 15+ in a week has been deemed "a lot". Which I think is baloney.

    I agree with some of the above posters that say to mix water into your drinking session to stay hydrated. Definitely helps in the long run.

    Glutens.
     
  34. RandyV

    RandyV Initiate (157) Aug 8, 2010 Arizona

    Boy ain't that the truth. Former Navy here.
     
  35. kdb150

    kdb150 Devotee (445) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Eh, nothing wrong with tying one on every now and again. There's a time and a place for everything, regardless of what my wife says.
     
  36. egoo33

    egoo33 Aspirant (208) Apr 18, 2010 Illinois

    Take all you can drink, but drink all you can take but seriously if you got your shit in order who cares.
     
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  37. Kappakoosh

    Kappakoosh Disciple (314) Dec 26, 2013 Texas

    I think everyone on BA has been around long enough to know how much they can and cannot drink before going over the edge. You have to know where your zone is. I try not to drink more than 2 (12 oz) beers in an hour. I stay out of trouble by sticking to that rule. If I am not driving, I will go to 3 per hour, but not every hour i drink.
     
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  38. marquis

    marquis Crusader (792) Nov 20, 2005 United Kingdom (England)

    What a way to spend an evening, drinking water!
    If one is going to drink over a long time then there are beers designed for this without having to drink water in between.
    The overall enjoyment is almost certainly better.
     
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