Bitter Imperials

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  1. bitterbeer

    bitterbeer Devotee (365) Jan 9, 2021 New York

    Hi all,

    Suggestions please for BITTER Imperial Ipa and Imperial Stout and Imperial Porter.

    Little to no sweetness, no milks, no sugars.

    Strong, simple, bitter beer only!

    Thanks!
     
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  2. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    Moylan's Hopsickle.
     
  3. bitterbeer

    bitterbeer Devotee (365) Jan 9, 2021 New York

    Thank you Bitterbill.
    Will check out for sure.
     
  4. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Grand Pooh-Bah (3,740) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Stone Enjoy By
    Firestone Walker Double Jack
     
  5. bitterbeer

    bitterbeer Devotee (365) Jan 9, 2021 New York

    Looks good, Doc. Thanks.
     
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  6. MichaelInMA

    MichaelInMA Devotee (373) Apr 24, 2016 Massachusetts

    It is hard to find an Imperial Stout that is not bitter. It more or less goes with he style and one of the reasons it has to be aged. I found my first fresh one that was not bitter it was a Surly RIS. Since I was not home with my cellar I was pleasantly surprised. It was not sweet either. I was just like a mellow nicely aged RIS.
     
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  7. Stignacious

    Stignacious Pooh-Bah (1,878) Aug 24, 2011 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    Something old-school, Dogfish Head 90-minute.

    If you can find fresh Sixpoint Resin, I always thought that was super piney and pithey. Where in NY are you? That might help guide recommendations. Most local/regional craft follow market trends, but every now and again you find a smaller operation making an IBU bomb.
     
  8. bitterbeer

    bitterbeer Devotee (365) Jan 9, 2021 New York

    Will certainly check out Surly.
     
  9. bitterbeer

    bitterbeer Devotee (365) Jan 9, 2021 New York

    Have always loved Resin - point in case. Piney and dry, bitter, perfect abv. Nothing too similar upstate though.
     
  10. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    It’s hard for most any beer over 12% to still be aggressively bitter. Just from my experiences.
     
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  11. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
    Trader

    Damn, yes, it’s been long here, but was wan my TGI Friday beer, took the steam right out of you.

    Without making a second post; Mongo as well, forget the brewery.
     
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  12. YamBag

    YamBag Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Resin and Dirt Wolf. Both brewed at Victory now. Freshness is the key for both and unfortunately can even be a challenge living 10 minutes from the brewery
     
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  13. bitterbeer

    bitterbeer Devotee (365) Jan 9, 2021 New York

    True - looking for very bitter in the sweet spot abv 8 - 12%.
     
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  14. bitterbeer

    bitterbeer Devotee (365) Jan 9, 2021 New York

    Thanks! Will hunt for it.
     
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  15. bitterbeer

    bitterbeer Devotee (365) Jan 9, 2021 New York

    Ah - bitterness dissipates longer it sits on shelf?
     
  16. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
    Trader

    Agree it’s tough to get much over 9%-10 and retain the bitter, even at that level really bitter won’t happen.
     
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  17. Stignacious

    Stignacious Pooh-Bah (1,878) Aug 24, 2011 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    Throw in the third head of that "cooperative" monstrosity, and include Southern Tier.

    Thinking back to the initial post, I still think that 2XIPA is bitter, even after the reformulation from a couple of years ago. I saw Unearthly came back as well, but as a Triple, I'm not necessarily sure if it would fit the OP's personal parameters because it's been redone and was a bit on the boozey-sweet side beforehand.
     
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  18. Stignacious

    Stignacious Pooh-Bah (1,878) Aug 24, 2011 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    It really depends on where you are Upstate. The Hudson Valley is all about NEIPA, but Cannon Call, from Big Ditch in Buffalo is close to a west coast double, and if you're close to Rochester, Three Heads and Rohrbach are always churning out variations of older and newer school IPA and stout
     
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  19. bitterbeer

    bitterbeer Devotee (365) Jan 9, 2021 New York

    Thanks! Hudson Valley for sure. Just notice that strong IPA’s are headed in milkshake, super sugary, sweet, tropical direction. Definitely prefer 9-11%abv, clear, piney, bitter. When it comes to Stouts/Porters, same abv preference, and bitter - no milk, cream, sugar. Sturdy, clean, simple, strong on all. Seems only a few in demand.
     
  20. bitterbeer

    bitterbeer Devotee (365) Jan 9, 2021 New York

    Loved Unearthly, and yes 2X a good choice.
     
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