BL Dark Star November?

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by LGHT, Nov 6, 2018.

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  1. HOPTOMIC_BOMB

    HOPTOMIC_BOMB Savant (1,044) Feb 18, 2014 California
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    Lmao I think this guy, sinhoptra, and that L1 whatever his name is are all the same person.
     
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  2. y2kawakami

    y2kawakami Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2015 Hawaii
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    You can call it lazy, but it's about how greedy and selfish you are being. Limits are created so that more people who'd like to enjoy that beer can experience it. If you took your allocation and traded 1-2 away for something you wanted elsewhere, hardly anyone would have a problem with it. When you take 3 extra allocations away from 3 people who would've enjoyed it so that you can send it away, that is greedy and selfish. You are more likely to find generous people like @SammyJaxxxx on this site who are willing to help others out and share than you would people who are trying to overload on a beer to fit their own selfish desires and answer your original question from your first post.
    I'm stuck on an island but I think part of the experience of enjoying new beers is traveling and attending those festivals that you speak of skipping. I've been to the mainland several times and visited breweries like Fremont, Great Notion, and de Garde, and I enjoy it more having the memory of drinking their tasty beers in their taprooms vs getting a box of beers in the mail from a stranger.
     
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  3. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

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  4. LGHT

    LGHT Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2007 California
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    I'm neither greedy nor selfish. I'm not greedy because If I trade 12 bottles to 12 guys here all 12 are very thankful they have the opportunity to try some good beer they otherwise would never had. I'm not selfish because I'm not asking for a HUGE amount in return for the bottles and most of the trades I've done have been either $4$ or in the recipients favor.

    I'm far my generous then most guys on this site who are not looking to get extra allocations so that there fellow beer advocates can enjoy the beer as well. If every advocate here got extra allocations and actually traded $4$ more often with other beer members we would all be that much more happy. It's the greedy self serving old school thinkers who are too selfish to get a few buddies to grab a few extra bottles for their fellow members here which is the real problem.

    I'm not skipping the beer Festivals or traveling, but I'm just not making that my priority as a means of getting to try new beer as that's a backward and foolish way of thinking. You would have to be pretty ignorant and uneducated to not see how much easier it is to simply go out to your local brewery stock up on some great beer post a trade and send your local beer to the go on the opposite coast rather then just fly over and buy it in person.

    Mass Mulling and large trades are the way to go! It ensures that other beer advocate members get to try new beers, it's quicker and easier to trade up because you now have several lessor valued beers and have a better chance of landing a whale by going 4-1 or even 6-1. It's cheaper because you don't have to spend all your time and effort making hundreds of random trades to build up your cellar if your the new guy.

    Bottom line is my way of thinking is far superior and makes more since so stop being selfish and get a few buddies to go with you to that next release and help out your fellow beer advocate brothers already..
     
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  5. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
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    :rolling_eyes:... You continue to display why you are exactly what is wrong with craft beer now. Trust me, nobody is jealous of you! If anything people feel sad for you and your 'superior' thought process. Just stop while you're behind.
     
  6. dranthony2012

    dranthony2012 Zealot (698) Dec 12, 2013 California
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    Everyone just needs to do their own thing. Let him do him and everyone do their own thing. No one is going to change anyone’s mind. What this guy does with his beer is no one’s business. It’s his beer and he can do whatever he wants. He’s not right or wrong in his choice, it’s what he believes in and he has that right to do what he wants. If you don’t like what he does, then just ignore him. Honestly, if he wants to try whales and this is his way of doing it then let him do it. Just don’t trade with him if you don’t like his ways. It’s just beer and hopefully it doesn’t affect many of you guys that you’ll be able to wake up and live another day.
     
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  7. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

     
  8. LGHT

    LGHT Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2007 California
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    I'm the answer to the forum and my forward way of thinking is hard to accept because most guys simply refuse to realize they have been doing it wrong the entire time. My "superior" thought process has shown to be quicker, easier, and better for everyone here. I've documented several ways how and why it's better. You have done nothing, but post silly meaningless comments that echo another member.

    In the future if you want to try and call me out please do so with some educated facts on how I'm "whats wrong with craft beer". So I can continue to prove why my methods and way of thinking is just better. :sunglasses:
     
  9. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
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    Of course he's free to do what he wants, and I'm free to think that what he's doing is what's ruining this hobby. Trust me, he's definitely on my Do-Not-Trade list already and will be on the 'Ignore' list shortly (wonderful feature of this website).

    Just as an FYI, if a brewery indented for people to buy 20 bottles, they would have set that allotment. They wouldn't have set it at 3.
     
  10. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    No one is preventing him from being douche. We are simply calling out his behavior for what it is.
    I disagree with your statement "He’s not right or wrong in his choice" There is right or wrong in most choices we make. Pretty much everyone but the OP agrees that bringing mules to a release so that you can circumvent bottle limits and trade the beer for three times its value is wrong.
     
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  11. dranthony2012

    dranthony2012 Zealot (698) Dec 12, 2013 California
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    I get your what you’re saying but it’s kind of like what I stated. You or nobody else is going to change his thinking...it’s just going back and forth. It’s not just this thread but I’ve seen it other threads lately as well where these type of back and forth banters are going. I think it’s just a waste of time on anyone’s part and if anything if you’re annoyed with his ways...the back and forth just fuels his fire to keep going.
     
  12. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Any old timers remember the user name "Bad_trader"? They were an awesome troll account until they got banned. This user reminds me of them.
     
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  13. dranthony2012

    dranthony2012 Zealot (698) Dec 12, 2013 California
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    Ok so if you think he’s wrong what are you going to do? You gonna call the cops? You gonna call every brewery he mules at? You gonna get the admins to ban him from the site? He’s set in his ways so what’s the point of going back and forth? He’s not wrong. You just think he’s wrong. There’s far worse out there than what he’s doing. There’s no right or wrong in this. He thinks he’s right and you think he’s wrong...so at the end of the day it’s just an opinion.
     
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  14. LGHT

    LGHT Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2007 California
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    Breweries set limits because they want to ensure the most people get to try their beer. By getting a few buddies and grabbing extra allotments and trading the bottles I'm spreading the love. If I purchase 12 bottles and trade to 12 guys that's 12 different people trying their beer not 4 so again I'm HELPING the brewery by OVERLY distributing the beer to even more people. Also they make limits so guys don't buy a ton of beer and sale it on the secondary market for profit.

    Again my way of thinking and methods are just better...
     
  15. Bum4ever

    Bum4ever Pooh-Bah (1,838) Jan 18, 2017 California
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    Dude you are obviously trolling at this point, so I am going to ignore you after this.

    Fact: You keep saying you are spreading the beer around, while also saying you are doing bulk trades like 8:1 for bigger bottles. Sending someone 8 bottles isn't spreading anything.

    Fact: You said your trades are mostly $4$, while you also said you bought PCC solely becasue you could trade it for 3 times it's price. Maybe you don't know what $4$ is?

    Fact: Whenever I get a few extra bottles of something nice, I typically send it to other generous people that I have interacted with on BA. Whether this is BIF's or Ninja's or just pick up's. These very generous people also send me nice stuff from time to time, or are willing to pick-up cool releases for me. Your way is not new or better. It's just annoying.

    The main reason most people think you suck is that it is clear you are someone really trying to "win" at craft beer. Whether its allotments or trades or whatever. That I have to "win" mentality is what is ruining this hobby.
     
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  16. Devman171

    Devman171 Pooh-Bah (1,874) May 16, 2013 Maryland
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    dont get as much, very low trading value
     
  17. ECOBOOSTINST

    ECOBOOSTINST Savant (1,026) Jul 7, 2016 Iowa
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    I used to think like this. But after spending some time sending monthly boxes to CA I realized I could be trying even more beer with the extra $50 it was costing me to ship. Not to say I haven't set up some very good trading partners this way, but shipping gets expensive. I guess if you're just Mr. Money Bags it wouldn't matter too much.....
     
  18. LGHT

    LGHT Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2007 California
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    I said "it's quicker and easier to trade up because you now have several lessor valued beers and have a better chance of landing a whale by going 4-1 or even 6-1". Since i'm not looking for whales I don't bother. I was simply using an example as to why having multiples give you better chance at trading up.

    The beer is worth a lot more than face value and I probably could if I wanted to gauge other members, but my last PCC trade was for 1 bottle of Malted Milk Ball lol.. So please tell me if that's not $4$ ....

    So your also using Mules to get beer for yourself. I'm doing exactly the same thing I'm just doing more than you so again my way is and has been proven to be just BETTER....

    The main reason people don't agree is because my new school method is just better and easier and the old guys just have a hard time admitting they've been doing it wrong all these years.

    Of course i'm trying to "win", I'm not here to loose and everyone who trades has the same thing in mind to drink good beer. If I trade for a Tree House beer I would have never been able to try otherwise that's a win... I'm not trading beer to loose that would just be ignorant and foolish lol...
     
  19. LGHT

    LGHT Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2007 California
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    I actually trade 10 times more with local guys then I ship because shipping is expensive and I'm not rich. That's the main reason why I only have a few trades here and why none of the cans I've picked up recently will be shipped at all.
     
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  20. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    The above nugget is gold but as others have mentioned, you are clearly trolling.
    Have you thought about how the brewery is using you in this respect? You are 'helping' the brewery by 'overly' distributing their beer but you are paying for packaging, shipping and your time out of your own pocket and see no type of reimbursement from the brewery for all the help you are giving them. You are essentially volunteering your services to the brewery. Wake up and ask them for compensation already unless you enjoy being used.
     
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