Blatant Brewing Comes Clean About Bad Batch

Discussion in 'New England' started by andylipp, May 23, 2012.

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  1. andylipp

    andylipp Savant (1,063) Dec 8, 2006 Massachusetts

    Interesting Facebook post from Blatant about a "less than stellar" batch of IPA. It sure is nice to see a brewer take responsibility when there's an issue.

    Here's the text of their post:

    "Let's be honest. The BLATANT IPA that is on draft throughout the marketplace right now is less than stellar. I brewed this one and only batch at Paper City. It is not bad, but it is not what BLATANT IPA is supposed to be.

    Don't fret though... We have found a new and a wonderful home at Pioneer Brewing Co and we are racking kegs tomorrow. I am very prou(d) of these batches and expect you will too."

    Some folks will likely be upset, but my respect for this brewery has just gone up a few notches.
     
  2. davey101

    davey101 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    lol at paper city. What a scary ass brewery that is...oh Holyoke.

    Big fan of when I tried their IPA the first time. Kudos to them admitting this.
     
  3. Reagan1984

    Reagan1984 Pooh-Bah (2,329) May 15, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Were their recent bottles brewed their as well? The post seems to speak to "on draft"

    Thanks for the heads up.
     
  4. andylipp

    andylipp Savant (1,063) Dec 8, 2006 Massachusetts

    I think he would have mentioned bottles if they were also an issue, but I couldn't say for sure.
     
  5. Jason

    Jason Founder (0) Aug 23, 1996 Massachusetts

    I've heard from other "traveling" brewers that Paper City may not have proper cooling for their conditioning tanks.
     
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  6. Jnorton00

    Jnorton00 Maven (1,338) Apr 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    Good to see pioneer will be used to put out beer that isn't from pioneer.
     
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  7. jamvt

    jamvt Savant (1,150) Aug 5, 2005 Massachusetts
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    had one on draft at deep ellum last night and was disappointed. glad to know this is a one time problem.
     
  8. emannths

    emannths Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2007 Massachusetts

    Can anyone characterize what the problem is, either from a process or flavor standpoint? Given Jason's supposition, is it yeast-related?
     
  9. kleo

    kleo Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2009 Massachusetts

    Pioneer also brews for Rapscallion and Mystic from time to time.
     
  10. AReno00

    AReno00 Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2009 Massachusetts

    I think Mystic makes their wort their too before fermenting it in Chelsea.
     
  11. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I had it on tap this weekend and it tasted fine to me.
     
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  12. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    Strange post. Has the "less than stellar" beer been recalled? I wouldn't expect them to, but that would be impressive and worthy of much respect. This is just a "we know we're selling sub-par product right now, please please don't write us off if you wasted your money on it." Not so impressive or worthy IMHO.
     
  13. BleepBloopBlap

    BleepBloopBlap Zealot (503) Aug 19, 2011 Massachusetts

    I dont know about anyone else, but I find it really sketchy that 1. a brewer would blatantly (no pun intended) throw another brewery - who's letting him use their equipment no less - under the bus. And 2. that the owner/creator/moderator of the site would add gossip in there as well.

    I have absolutely zero vested interest in Paper City as a brewery and haven't had one of their products in years, but I find this very odd and completely against what the brewing community (as I understand it) stands for.
     
  14. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    People are not allowed to call out a shitty brewery? Since when?

    At the end of the day beer is a business. If consumers are spending money on a product, they have every right to call them out on putting out a bad product. Blatant was a customer of Paper City, and felt they did a poor job. Beer advocacy is steering people towards good beer - not any beer.
     
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  15. emannths

    emannths Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2007 Massachusetts

    It looks like Paper City had trouble dealing with the hops:
    What's a little troubling to me is that this post was from April 12. If these QC issues were known at that time, it's pretty shady to send out subsequent batches that aren't up to "spec." I'm not saying dump it, but maybe rename it "BLATANT Factor Seconds IPA" or something. Or, you know, discount it. Coming back 6 weeks later and saying "oh, sorry" isn't the best approach.
     
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  16. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I'll be sad if this thread gets shut down.
     
  17. BleepBloopBlap

    BleepBloopBlap Zealot (503) Aug 19, 2011 Massachusetts

    I dont work in the beer industry, but if I put out a less than stellar product that was due to an outside factor and not my own, I can promise you, I would not publicly go online to throw them under the bus. Ultimately, it has my name on it, and if at the end of the day I've put out a less than superior product, it's on me - not them.
     
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  18. Chlodwig23

    Chlodwig23 Initiate (0) May 14, 2009 Massachusetts

    We make our wort at Pioneer. At the end of a brewday we pump 19 barrels of wort on to our truck. We transport it back to Mystic Brewery in Chelsea where we technically (and by legal definition) make it into "beer." We don't really have a name for the method despite the fact that other breweries do it, at least in Belgium.
     
  19. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    I understand the "keep your dirty laundry private" type of mentality. But, this is a brand new brewery trying to prove themselves. By saying "this was purely our fault and we promise the beer will be better next time", most consumers will be thinking "yeah - right - i'm not falling for that one". By saying "this was Paper City's fault and we will not be using them anymore", then most consumers will be thinking "well - ok - at least there's a good reason why your beer sucked and it was largely out of your hands".

    Basically they made Paper City a scapegoat.
     
  20. jamvt

    jamvt Savant (1,150) Aug 5, 2005 Massachusetts
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    are ALL bottles in the trade from the first bottling back in late feb?
     
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