Blatant Brewing Comes Clean About Bad Batch

lol at paper city. What a scary ass brewery that is...oh Holyoke.

Big fan of when I tried their IPA the first time. Kudos to them admitting this.

 

Were their recent bottles brewed their as well? The post seems to speak to "on draft"

Thanks for the heads up.

 

I've heard from other "traveling" brewers that Paper City may not have proper cooling for their conditioning tanks.

 

Good to see pioneer will be used to put out beer that isn't from pioneer.

 

had one on draft at deep ellum last night and was disappointed. glad to know this is a one time problem.

 

Can anyone characterize what the problem is, either from a process or flavor standpoint? Given Jason's supposition, is it yeast-related?

 

Pioneer also brews for Rapscallion and Mystic from time to time.

 

I think Mystic makes their wort their too before fermenting it in Chelsea.

 

I had it on tap this weekend and it tasted fine to me.

 

Strange post. Has the "less than stellar" beer been recalled? I wouldn't expect them to, but that would be impressive and worthy of much respect. This is just a "we know we're selling sub-par product right now, please please don't write us off if you wasted your money on it." Not so impressive or worthy IMHO.

 

I dont know about anyone else, but I find it really sketchy that 1. a brewer would blatantly (no pun intended) throw another brewery - who's letting him use their equipment no less - under the bus. And 2. that the owner/creator/moderator of the site would add gossip in there as well.

I have absolutely zero vested interest in Paper City as a brewery and haven't had one of their products in years, but I find this very odd and completely against what the brewing community (as I understand it) stands for.

 

People are not allowed to call out a shitty brewery? Since when?

At the end of the day beer is a business. If consumers are spending money on a product, they have every right to call them out on putting out a bad product. Blatant was a customer of Paper City, and felt they did a poor job. Beer advocacy is steering people towards good beer - not any beer.

 

It looks like Paper City had trouble dealing with the hops:

What's a little troubling to me is that this post was from April 12. If these QC issues were known at that time, it's pretty shady to send out subsequent batches that aren't up to "spec." I'm not saying dump it, but maybe rename it "BLATANT Factor Seconds IPA" or something. Or, you know, discount it. Coming back 6 weeks later and saying "oh, sorry" isn't the best approach.

 

I'll be sad if this thread gets shut down.

 

I dont work in the beer industry, but if I put out a less than stellar product that was due to an outside factor and not my own, I can promise you, I would not publicly go online to throw them under the bus. Ultimately, it has my name on it, and if at the end of the day I've put out a less than superior product, it's on me - not them.

 

We make our wort at Pioneer. At the end of a brewday we pump 19 barrels of wort on to our truck. We transport it back to Mystic Brewery in Chelsea where we technically (and by legal definition) make it into "beer." We don't really have a name for the method despite the fact that other breweries do it, at least in Belgium.

 

I understand the "keep your dirty laundry private" type of mentality. But, this is a brand new brewery trying to prove themselves. By saying "this was purely our fault and we promise the beer will be better next time", most consumers will be thinking "yeah - right - i'm not falling for that one". By saying "this was Paper City's fault and we will not be using them anymore", then most consumers will be thinking "well - ok - at least there's a good reason why your beer sucked and it was largely out of your hands".

Basically they made Paper City a scapegoat.

 

are ALL bottles in the trade from the first bottling back in late feb?