Blichmann Boilcoil Help!!

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  1. Fattymcphatty

    Fattymcphatty Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 Michigan

    So I saved up and finally dropped the cash for a Blichmann Boilermaker with a Boilcoil. Now that I have it, I fear I may have missed something...

    I was under the impression from the Blichmann website that "plug and play" meant it was ready to plug in and go. Now I'm reading that the use of a "power control device" is required.

    I'm COMPLETELY un-handy, so can someone spell this out super simply for me? Am I able to plug this thing into the wall or do I need something else? Am I forced now to just look at this kettle that I bought and not be able to use it?
     
  2. ventura78

    ventura78 Pundit (972) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

    It looks like you have to buy their tower of power to control the coil or hire an electrician to provide an on and off switch with gfi to control the boil. I imagine the tower of power has a means to control the temp too. If an electrician did this for you he or she would have to provide this control also. I would go with the tower of power.
     
  3. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Just out of curiosity, where did you by it from? Seems like you needed more customer service than was provided.
     
  4. Fattymcphatty

    Fattymcphatty Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 Michigan

    All the research I did, I did through the Blichmann site. On the page for the Boilcoil, nowhere does it say that the tower of power is REQUIRED. That would have been nice. Plug and play, to me, means it's ready to rock.

    I'm not trying to control temp, I just wanted to use it to boil. In my head, the tower of power was only needed when temp control is a concern...

    Well....looks like I'll be staring at this thing for a while.
     
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  5. Fattymcphatty

    Fattymcphatty Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 Michigan

    (They do make it pretty clear, though, that a power control is needed in the owners manual...after I had already purchased)
     
  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Bummer. I guess they need to clarify that on their site. In this case, it's a pretty new product, so I imagine there's not a lot of consumer info out there yet on the product.

    I looked at the website and agree that it doesn't sound like the tower is mandatory -- it might be worth contacting the company to find out if it truly is mandatory. If not, maybe they can give you some additional instruction. If it is, at least you can let them know politely that their web page misled you.
     
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  7. Fattymcphatty

    Fattymcphatty Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 Michigan

    I sent them a (hopefully) polite email this morning. It really isn't clear until you get the owners manual that some type of control is necessary. In fact, the owners manual explicitly says not to plug it directly into the wall. The owners manual is definitely much clearer than the website is.
     
  8. LuskusDelph

    LuskusDelph Initiate (0) May 1, 2008 New Jersey

    About 35 years ago, I bought a British made Bruheat boiler. Originally designed for mashing, it was a bucket equipped with a 3000W heating element and came with a temperature control. I was going to use it strictly for a boiler and did not need to adjust temperature at all, so I simply bypassed the controller entirely and it worked fine (actually it still works, after all these years...but I long ago replaced the bucket with a converted keg).
    You should definitely check with Blichman, but I'm betting that you don't need the controller.
    I didn't even install an on/off switch in the Bruheat element.
     
  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Give them a couple days, they have been at the NHC in San Diego, which wrapped up last night.
     
  10. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Look at the bright side, you only have to spend $600 more just to get the thing to work. :confused:
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Does this thing operate on 110V? If so, I don't see why it couldn't be plugged into any kitchen GFCI outlet, if all the control you want is on or off.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a licensed electrician. If you fry the coil or yourself, it's not my fault.

    ETA: I just looked at the manual. Proprietary connector it looks like.
     
  12. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    It doesn't use a standard plug

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  13. Fattymcphatty

    Fattymcphatty Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 Michigan

    Yeah, the plug in to the kettle is that weird connector part, but the other side is just a regular 3 prong plug in. The two options (sorry going off memory here) are 120 and 240v. I went with the 120 so I could just use a regular plug in since I don't have a dryer type plug in in my apartment.
     
  14. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I hope you will post what you learn. As I said, this is a pretty new product so I don't think there is a lot of consumer buzz oun it yet.
     
  15. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I suppose without the temperature control box, the boil could become too vigorous. If the control box is required, they need to make it obvious to consumers. Not everyone is a Blichman engineer.
     
  16. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Ask Blichman if you can use a third party temperature controller and a thermowell. That would cost less than $100. Not sure why you couldn't.
     
  17. Fattymcphatty

    Fattymcphatty Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 Michigan

    As stated earlier...I am extremely UN-handy. I wouldn't event know where to start with a third party temp control and have no idea what a thermowell is. I got it hoping it would be simple. I envy you guys that can build or fabricate or modify this stuff on your own.
     
  18. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That's odd. I could have sworn the manual talked about some kind of twist connecter at the controller. If it's 110V and it's a regular 3-prong connector, I can't imagine what could go wrong by plugging it into a GFCI outlet. Unless the unregulated current draw is very high (higher than a typical circuit can handle), which would be a bad way to design a product IMO.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a licensed electrician. If you fry the coil or yourself, it's not my fault.
     
  19. bevoduz

    bevoduz Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2007 Illinois

    A friend of mine runs an electric rig. His controller constantly turns his coil on and off to maintain the boil. If left to go without a controller it would most likely scortch the wort.

    A Johnston controller would probably work just fine, assuming you can set the temp that high. If not I'm sure there's other options out there for much less.
     
  20. Fattymcphatty

    Fattymcphatty Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 Michigan

    Just an update...still waiting on a response from Blichmann. We'll see what they say.

    But does anyone know another inexpensive way to make a control for an electric system to hold me over until I can afford a tower of power?
     
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