BMC rice source

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by kylelenk, Jan 21, 2014.

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  1. kylelenk

    kylelenk Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2012 Michigan

    Anyone have info on where larger adjunct lager producers source their rice from?

    I know we do have a limited rice production domestically, not sure if it's large enough to support the entire big beer market.

    Would find it quite ironic if a large number of big beer producers source their ingredients from China...especially since the typical BMC drinker is quite Americana.
     
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  2. colforbin73

    colforbin73 Initiate (0) Mar 30, 2010 California

    i think they grow a lot themselves but. let's see/
     
  3. RblWthACoz

    RblWthACoz Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2006 Pennsylvania

    According to the EPA:

    "U.S. rice production accounts for just under 2% of the world's total, but this country is the second leading rice exporter with 10% of the world market.

    About 50 - 60% of the rice consumed in the U.S. is for direct food use; another 18% goes into processed foods, 10-12 percent goes into pet food, and most of the rest (about 10 percent) goes into beer production."

    Sounds to me as though it's homegrown.
     
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  4. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    For the breweries in the US most all of it is grown in the US. Bud uses Sushi grade rice which is often more expensive than barley.
     
  5. PaulyB83

    PaulyB83 Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2013 Michigan

  6. Jonada

    Jonada Savant (1,174) May 23, 2012 New Jersey
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    I could be wrong, but I believed they stopped using sushi grade, and switched to a cheaper rice like a year or two ago.
     
  7. kylelenk

    kylelenk Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2012 Michigan

    Remember hearing that too. I just think it's quite funny. Coinciding with all the people that are upset about the Makers/Beam purchase by Suntory it seems that a majority of BMC drinkers are unaware that the rice probably comes from China or Indonesia.
     
  8. cyrushire

    cyrushire Initiate (0) May 25, 2012 Florida

    Sacramento and the Louisiana Valley.
     
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  9. KS1297

    KS1297 Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2013 Wisconsin

    i thought it lost those sushi rice nuances....
     
  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,623) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    So what do you think of small breweries that use imported malts ( Victory uses a lot of Bamberg malt from Germany, and Maris Otter from the UK is a staple in the craft world) or imported hops (some of the craft beers use AU, NZ, or Europe)

    This says no to the rice coming from China or Indonesia. Of course in a bad crop year they will source it where they can.
    http://www.sagevfoods.com/MainPages/Rice101/Production.htm
     
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  11. colforbin73

    colforbin73 Initiate (0) Mar 30, 2010 California

    this is credible. these are major producing regions.... but there must be more.
     
  12. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,623) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    There are a lot of rice fields in the Mississippi delta, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Missouri along with CA and LA.
     
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  13. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

  14. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Now you mention it I do recall there was a thread on here about that. Seems that "cheaper" meant they no longer insisted on the grains of rice being whole. (Does that affect the grade of rice? Probably.).

    The consensus of the home brewing crowd seemed to be that that was a difference in the appearance in the rice that made no difference in the brewing or the end result. So yeah they seem to have quit insisting on having something they were paying for that wasn't contributing to the beer and they do pay less for the rice they are using. Thanks for the reminder.
     
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  15. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    According to the book Travels with Barley by Ken Wells AB consumes 15% of all domestic rice.
     
  16. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,099) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    It's rice syrup... if that helps.
     
  17. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,104) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    True. My uncle is a farmer in Southeast Missouri and rice is the majority crop there
     
  18. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,133) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Others have claimed that here on the forums, but AB (pre-InBev) had always claimed they bought whole rice, and in that hatchet job on ABInBev in Businessweek awhile back, the claim was only that they had started buying broken rice. No mention of rice syrup, which would mean the retirement of cereal cookers in the AB plants and pretty easy to verify.
     
  19. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,860) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    For whatever it's worth, on the tour I took in St Lou in the 1990s we were shown the cereal cookers and whole rice. That could have changed, but I doubt it- their whole mantra down there was "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", and using syrup seems too much of a major change.

    I wonder what the supposed bad deal with broken rice is- does that mean the more surface area is exposed to air and therefor susceptible to oxidation?
     
  20. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,099) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    It's possible... hard to know what goes on behind the vault these days I'd say.
     
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