Boilermakers vs barrel-aged

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  1. Reedbrew

    Reedbrew Initiate (0) Nov 1, 2014 California

    Is the boilermaker essentially ersatz barrel-aged beer?

    Has anyone considered a careful analysis of boilermaker "recipes" attempting to specific flavor profiles?

    And finally: is a carefully selected boilermaker a potential answer to the problem of what to order when a venue (ie: restaurant) has a limited and fairly bland beer selection?
     
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  2. elektrikjester

    elektrikjester Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2008 Georgia

    No. You're missing the vital infusion that only prolonged contact with oak can provide.

    Boilermakers are typically associated with AALs, whereas BA beers are commonly high gravity ales, including imperial stouts and Barleywines. There's also the matter of ratio, with a boilermaker being a shot of whiskey to a pint of beer (again, an AAL).

    It sounds like you are proposing a flavoring addition, which would be a much smaller amount. Again, I wouldn't adulterate a beer like that, and I'd rather look for established styles are good in their own right.

    Recall that many BA beers aren't great because they're barrel aged. They're great because they began with an outstanding base beer. Nothing you add is going to make a mediocre beer any better.
     
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  3. EveningCordial

    EveningCordial Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2014 New Jersey

    Haven't done boiler makers since college when I snuck the flask in the bars to make higher octane beers since I couldn't afford many. I think barrel aging is a craft and there's a decent difference between the two, especially the vanilla and earthy flavors from the oak. That said, people should do what they like and enjoy. At the end if the day, I'm gonna drink whatever I am in the mood for and enjoy.
     
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  4. Fox82791

    Fox82791 Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2014 New York

    No, but it'll get ya drunk quicker
     
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  5. beernuts

    beernuts Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2014 Virginia

    No, unfortunately its not the same at all. The barrel:whiskey ratio is way off. In a good barrel aged beer, even one that seems booze-forward, there is a lot more barrel than you can get by adding pure whiskey.
     
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  6. Reedbrew

    Reedbrew Initiate (0) Nov 1, 2014 California

    This was more of a tongue-in-cheek thread, replica to put a :-) at the end. I appreciate all of your comments though did not think that they were the same, obviously otherwise Brewers would simply make a quick and cheap beer and four in some sort of whiskey etc. at the end.
     
  7. Reedbrew

    Reedbrew Initiate (0) Nov 1, 2014 California

    I chose the word ersatz on purpose not "replica" since ersatz means

    ":being a usually artificial and inferior substitute or imitation "
     
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  8. beernuts

    beernuts Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2014 Virginia

    Ah, well, there actually have been a few serious threads asking this question (although not using the term boilermaker), and as you can probably tell, I have tried it.
     
  9. elektrikjester

    elektrikjester Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2008 Georgia

    People do these things. I am aware of recipes for "poor man's Black Note," for example.
     
  10. AntG21

    AntG21 Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2014 Syria

    I'll take a bottle of Old Rasputin +1 oz of quality aged bourbon over running all over the city trying to score a $20 bottle of BCBS.
     
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  11. RBCORCORAN

    RBCORCORAN Initiate (0) May 18, 2009 Massachusetts

    Not the same but also not bad. I've added small amounts of bourbon to stouts and enjoyed the results.
     
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