bottle condition v.s. force carb for lambic?

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  1. BeerDunson

    BeerDunson Zealot (516) Jul 20, 2012 Ohio
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    I have some lambics that are almost ready to bottle, and as the title of this post states I'm on the fence about whether or not to force carb and bottle with my beer gun or bottle condition. There was an interview I read with the brew master of jester king and he spoke on this topic and how they experimented with both methods of bottling on the same batch of beer and the bottle conditioned beer had much more complexity than the force carbed. Just nervous since Ive waited so long for these beers to finish and I'd hate to end up with over or under carbonated beers Any help is greatly appreciated!
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  2. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    How about splitting, half to bottle bucket and half to keg? That way you're safe and have a nice back to back comparison for future reference. Additionally, you can report back to add to the wealth of site knowledge.
     
  3. dbrese

    dbrese Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2011 Vermont

    Depends on when you want your beer. Force carbing is much faster, although priming with wine yeast can carb lambic very well and faster than the resident culture in the beer after such a long fermentation. One of the main reasons lambic Brewers blend with young beer is for the small residual gravity remaining after 1 year in the barrels to carb the beer as they age in bottles. That stage takes some time, and can be hard to predict in some cases according to Wild Brews. Good luck if you go that route. There are plenty of lambics on tap in Europe by the way. And they taste great on draught.
     
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  4. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    BOTTLE CONDITION!!! There is no way to achieve the explosive effervescent carbonation of a Gueuze off a keg. Besides, why spend a year plus on a beer to short cut it. Take the extra week with wine/champagne yeast warm.

    I hate bottling... Which is why my sours are still aging...

    @invetoveritas has a good idea too, bottle 1/2, keg 1/2.
     
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  5. BeerDunson

    BeerDunson Zealot (516) Jul 20, 2012 Ohio
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    I do like the idea of bottle conditioning half and force carbing the other half. I will report back with my findings!
     
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  6. DNuggs

    DNuggs Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts

    Not a lambic but I have a soured Saison that I did the 1/2 keg and 1/2 bottled split. I can tell you that that bottled version definitely has more funk characteristic than the keg as the bugs continued to develop. I was thinking about pulling the kegged version out of the kegerator, adding a touch of maltodextrine, and letting it sit at room temp for 1-2 months to see if the flavor profile changes at all. If you're looking for that quintessential lambic funk, I'd bottle-condition the whole bactch.
     
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  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Kegs CAN be left at room temp...my lambic brewed last April has been in a keg since Aug and at room temp the whole time.
     
  8. BeerDunson

    BeerDunson Zealot (516) Jul 20, 2012 Ohio
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    Also, one of the lambics I'm going to be bottling has 5lbs of blueberries on 2 gallons. Would I be ok just pitching a small amount of champagne yeast without corn sugar to bottle condition? Its only been on the bb for 6 weeks so there may be some residual sugars. Should I be focused more on my gravity before bottling?
     
  9. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I would recommend you find out how much residual sugar you have before you go that route. You could either end up with no carbonation or over carbonation.

    I also recommend bottle conditioning. The only time I bottle is with my sours or saison because it makes a big difference (IMO) in the development of the product over time.
     
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  10. DNuggs

    DNuggs Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts

    Watch your gravity for a few more weeks.....all my fruited lambics sit for at least 3 months with the fruit addition. I wouldn't bottle any lambic until your FG is below 1.010. Champagne yeast is fine but you only need a little bit of it as, from my understanding, the bugs can continue to chomp on the dead yeast that's carbonated your beer and potentially create bottle bombs.
     
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